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Good morning to everyone. I just wanted to let everyone know here that myself and Robert Grove have settled our issues in regards to the sale of the HC and ECK fan. We have recently spoken on the phone and had a wonderfull talk, between everything that was going on we have finally settled this matter between us. And both parties are very happy, Robert had expressed some issues that he was worried about on my behalf and I agree with the way he felt, and both for myself. It's a hard battle when parties live on the otherwise of the world. I'm glad I can see that Robert is a reasonable man and quite understanding. By any means I don't think any bad of Robert and would be happy to continue to sell/ buy fans of him in the future. I wish everyone the best with fan hunting!

I received a request to reproduce a Manhattan fan cage using a sample. When I opened the box, I was met with a real problem. The center piece was a stamped ring instead of a solid ring. I don't have a punch press and tooling to make these, so If I couldn't figure out a way to fab this up, I would have to return the cage and not accept this project. Searching around my toolbox, I found a huge tube socket for the sprocket nut on one of my bikes. It was the right size. I rounded the end of it on my belt sander and radiused the inside with my moto tool. Taking some sheet brass, I measured it up and cut it to size. Using hammer and dolly method, I folded the edges around the tube socket, stopping to frequently anneal the brass so it wouldn't crack and split. At this point I used my drill press to push the center through inside the tube socket. Now I had something that would work. Success. I saved the project. The rest is just like any other cage, with rings and spokes. Cheers, Bill

I went to the flea market Friday hoping that the good weather and holiday would bring out some better buying opportunities. I was not disappointed, I was able to pick up 3 (and a half) fans of still, undetermined quality. However, I did bring home two Emersons. A 19666 and a 19646. I also picked up a an older Peerless (BB1?) stationary, The half I got was the top half of a 16" GE Loophandle with a busted pot metal rear bearing carrier. Not too bad for half an afternoon spent wandering around in warm and windy weather.

Here it is, fully complete VID_20240324_141451.mp4 and functional. Look for a video in the next few days about this one in greater detail. Man, those Monster Energy drinks are really stimulating my imagination.

We have completed the transfer of the old forum material over to the new forums. You will find it all in the Members Area, under Old Forums. Once in the Members area, you'll need to click on the Old Forums title to display all of the Old Forums categories. We transferred everything we were able to transfer (which was content for any old posts including categories, images, videos, copy, etc.). Some things were unable to be transferred such as specific membership or guest privileges for the old posts (everyone became a Guest on the old posts and no icons were able to be transferred). I had to move everything within our current forum structure one last time, so our servers may be busy indexing the new position of the images and videos. I would like to give all of this a week to kind of update and settle in before having any discussions on what is working, what is where, and why. Although the "why" is kind of easy. You all requested it, Larry Hancock and Lane Shirey headed it up, and the Board approved and was able to pay for it. The old forums are in the Members area and should only be available to Members. It should be searchable, at least up to whatever the search capabilities are in our other forums on this relatively new platform. I do not yet know if a search by Guests will display content from the Old forums. That remains to be seen and addressed if needed. No one should be able to post anything to the old forums or reply to anything in the old forums. Enjoy your new toy! 😁

I used to have a lathe for this kind of work, but had to let it go due to limited space. I've since had to find new methods to get from A to B. This is one. I use a Jacob's chuck with 1/2 x 20tpi mount and attach it to my drill press table. Using a 1/4 inch mandrel, I clamp it between the two chucks and tighten them with the key. Then I lock down the table so it can't move. Next, I chuck up the stock in the lower chuck, a drill bit in the upper and begin to drill. The end product comes out like this. Obviously, I'm limited to 1/2 inch stock as that's the largest that fits in the lower chuck. However, I could turn down larger stock to 1/2 inch first as a tail to use for chucking it up in the lower chuck. That's all for now. Cheers, Bill

Still a work in progress. Special thanks to Seth Anderson for the 3D printed centers.

Hi Everybody! Finally I finished my 12" Jandus Wire yoke. I acquired over a year ago. The biggest problem was get the right blade, When I received the fan it had a 12" GE blade on it so I started looking for the right blade. I had no luck finding one so I decided to let Dan Nguyen make one for me, Dan made me a beautiful correct Jandus blade and shipped it my way. That is when the problems started, three months later still no blade. The last tracking report it was at JFK airport, After another two months Dan decided it was lost and said he would make another one for me. The second blade arrived in about a month safe and sound in bullet proof metal box. Dan is the man he fabricated two beautiful blade and I finally got one. Rick Huckabee rewound the stator, Darryl Hudson replaced the bearings and sent me a bearing cap for it. Anyway its done! Video.MOV

Fraternal.....

One of the guys who owns an antique store has me referb. a fan for him now and then. These two Vornado's he gave me to fix. The one on the left had a bent out of balance blade but the motor was good. So I repaired the blade sand blasted and painted it. The one on the right had a shorted out motor. I sand blasted it and painted it the same colors. Mick does not want to put the money into a rewound motor so part of my payment is going to be that fan. Rich rewound a 1001 motor and its on the way should be here tomorrow so I can finish up. I made a new turning wheel and put the gold pin stripes on it. there were three indentations that ringed the fan but I thought two would work fine. Put on a flat green cloth covered cord and it looks good to my eye.

IMG_2442.MOV Yesterday I got this original paint, low mileage Westinghouse 12" stationary residential desk fan back together after a period of maintenance and repairs. It had been sitting on my basement shelf for probably 15 years, which is sad. It originally came from a private antiquities museum north of Kansas City that probably closed in the late 70s. I befriended the elderly owner around 1996 and picked this fan along with a gyro, lollipop, peacock and an all brass vertical axis rarity. But this is the one I've kept. Huge thanks to Tony Clayton for for the original-style headwire (I've been reworking all of Tanks with it), and extra huge thanks to Mark Olson for repairing the break in the original start windings. Disapproval and criticism to US Postal Service for losing track of the motor in the mail for over two weeks -- scary. The fan runs beautifully and incredibly smooth and quiet. I am partial to Tank fans, and this one is really wonderful.

Hello Friends: You may recall that I recently acquired a second Manhattan No. 3 fan which was missing the cage and the blade. I inquired of Bill Dunlap (in Hawaii) if he might be willing to take on the job of fabricating a cage and a blade. You may have seen his post about how he came up with a clever jig to make the center ring for my Manhattan. Anyway, Today the original and reproduction cage and blade arrived in the mail. You'd be hard pressed to tell which are the originals and which are the reproductions. See the answer below. The top picture is of the reproduction parts and the second picture is of the originals. The blade that Bill made is perfectly balanced with not even the slightest vibration. While I won't divulge the price that Bill charged, I will tell you that his prices are more than reasonable (in fact, I tipped him because I felt that he didn't charge enough). I believe that Bill will entertain other jobs if you've a mind to inquire. I'm so grateful for his willingness to share his talents and superb craftsmanship!

The image issues everyone was having in the forums, and the Light Mode issues have now been repaired. Thank you to everyone (Larry Hancock, our forum host, and everyone who answered our survey or provided details in order to allow us to do some testing) for assisting us in getting this solved. Long story short, it was two separate issues: Some Gallery preferences were likely changed when the Old Forums were ported over, and... The Light Mode Theme became corrupt around the same time, likely due to the update that was required to our PHP (server-side programming language) in order for us to add the old forum content to our new forums Because the symptoms were similar, we all thought it was one issue. Only Members should be able to view the old forum content on our new forums, so if you want future access to that content, you might want to become a Member before we eventually make all those old forum links (that you find in your Google searches) inaccessible. That task is at the top of my to-do list, at the moment. So that means it will happen before Fan Fair. 😳😂 You may now use the 2 different forum themes we will have available: AFCA Dark Mode (our Default Theme) AFCA Light Mode NEW The other themes (the corrupted Light Mode and the AFCA Default) will be deleted over the weekend. Thanks again for everyone's assistance in getting this solved!!

I think I'm going to pass. Image of the wall-mount dragon brass fan... p.s. Hopin' y'all had a great April first!

Please use the DARK THEME (found at the bottom of the forums) until further notice. Invision is porting all our old forum material to the new forums as well as us having to make a software update in order for them to do that. As stated in the Announcements & News forum, we are going to experience some issues as no matter what, software updates (along with moving the old forum over) are going to cause some issues. I believe, along with the software update (and the immediate patch - "fixing" the software update they sent out), we are seeing a lag in image loads as the server has to now index a ton more photos that are being brought over from the old forum. I will try to keep everyone posted as to what I know as soon as I know it.

Please use the DARK THEME (found at the bottom of the forums) until further notice. Invision is porting all our old forum material to the new forums as well as us having to make a software update in order for them to do that. As stated in the Announcements & News forum, we are going to experience some issues as no matter what, software updates (along with moving the old forum over) are going to cause some issues. I believe, along with the software update (and the immediate patch - "fixing" the software update they sent out), we are seeing a lag in image loads as the server has to now index a ton more photos that are being brought over from the old forum. I will try to keep everyone posted as to what I know as soon as I know it.

I polished the high parts of the relief. I think it makes the fan pop.

All together! Only thing I'm waiting on is a new tag to be made. Found that early Menominee Clamshells with the exposed brush holders has the same size brush caps as what this fan needed. Shout out to Darryl Hudson for making new ones!

A long while back, David Cherry made this table and I always wanted one but could not find the appropriate feet. I whipped this up.

I took these in NWA today. Solar Eclipse Arkansas. Nikon D3100 with Sigma 150-600mm 5-6.3

Thanks to Mike I was able to pick up this shiny 10" Oscillating Artic Aire at Fanapalooza. No work necessary on it looked and ran great. Two fans in two fans out net gain zero, perfect in my world

Really Larry... The jr. Should come to Indiana... It does not belong in Sikeston... Wut was you thinking?

This one showed up at docs last fall

Just like I really needed another belt drive, just couldn’t turn down this little 24” Emmy. This will make two 24” Emmys so probably going to fix this one up for mom’s porch. Skeeters don’t stand a chance against these things.

This event was a blast. It was fun. Thank you to Jim and his crew who helped put this on. The food was great also. The raffle was rigged.LOL..

Bill indeed got the Westy pancake running. Wish I had the video of them torching the rotor outside Thank you all who attended ...that's what makes it great ( 70 degrees clear blue blue skies helps) 20240413_194001.mp4

Another option that would go well with white or off white.

Good morning friends. Yesterday, I received the repaired gear from Louis Luu. Recall that the old gear was made of phenolic resin which basically turns to mush after many years. Here is the old gear with the worn phenolic resin gear. And the new gear is below, which Louis generously scanned and had manufactured for my young friend Jack. This gear should never wear out, unlike the phenolic gear! Below is a video of the fan running with the restored gear. Many thanks to Louis who would not even agree to be compensated for shipping. You are a kind and generous man, Louis, and the AFCA is very fortunate indeed to have you as a member. I certainly am grateful.

My Movie 9.mov Finished up the Dayton. A little surface rust and paint loss on the bottom rim of the base and cage but overall the finish is in great shape. Runs nice and quiet on 32v DC.

Some progress on the all brass this weekend. Started working on polishing, ended up having to wet sand due to the rough surface of the brass. Not quite done yet, but gave it a quick hand polish and pretty happy with the progress considering it looked like the base next to it when I started.

We are making these for the eclipse!

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Scored my first century S3 yesterday. What can you tel me about it? What year? Pot metal or no pot metal? Is it Japan or black paint? The little switch on top of the gearbox does not move and I don’t want to force it. Any tips on that? What’s the best method for getting oil in that little ball bearing type oiler? (My zoom spout oiler didn’t really do a good job of pressing the ball in and putting oil in… I have a couple old metal pump oilers, but I just haven’t got them cleaned up and loaded with proper oil yet). Also, the switch is missing the plastic/bakelite(?) cover piece. Do the usual suspects that make these have them for this model? It works great on all five speeds. Pretty distinct too. Obviously a total tear down of the gearbox at least is in order, but I’m not ready to monkey around with this yet since I’ve never had one of these. Cage has seen better days. But it is all brass and fixable. I’m sure. Maybe with a couple new S wires, etc.. Also…,whereas Emerson’s have that adjustible Collar, those seems to have a sort of cogged mechanism that you can rotate the top half of the fan with am I correct in that? thanks

This fan has some uniqueness to it. The rear cover has air vents. Its the only Airmaster with this kind of blade. Never heard of Electro Machines. Total motor cover.. This is a very smooth running fan.

Hi Marc. Every good collection should have a skeletal S3. The switch is perfect as it is. There is no bakelite covering on it. You'll see why when you open the bottom as there is a hard leather part of the speed coil switch that insulates. You can see it below just peering out from beneath the switch. The only pot metal on this fan is the gear box as far as I remember. The fan is definitely japanned. This is a five speed fan but the issue with some of these speed coils is that sometimes, there isn't a lot of difference between the speeds. Be gentle around the speed numbers as you clean. Those are nice to have and hard rubbing will remove them. As I recall, one of our members produces a decal that will replace these numbers with Slow, 2, 3, 4 and Fast. This fan's gears are a marvel of engineering and very clever. Remove the rear plate on the gear box and you will see this gear: The two little ball bearings compress into the shaft so that the little lever (the one you say doesn't move) has a nub on the end of it that fits into the far right groove pushing the center gear on and off of these ball bearings which locks and unlocks the oscillation. The rotor looks like this: The little lever appears on the far right of the picture below. You can see the nub on the end of it. As i recall, there is a set screw on the back of the gear case that must be removed to pull this lever up and out. That set screw fits into the center groove on that lever. The press oiler on top of the gear case can be removed with a small open end box wrench for cleaning so that it will depress more easily (above picture far left). The worm gear (below) can easily be removed so that you can slide the gears out of the rear case to clean them repack in red and tacky grease. That center cog mechanism, allows the re-orientation of the fan's arc swing. You would move that while the fan is off. It controls where the arc begins and ends. Very clever design. The stator comes out easily on these fans. Take care to label the wires so you know what wire goes where on the speed coil. I attach diagrams which you may find useful. Hope this information is helpful to you, Marc. Congratulations on a nice acquisition!

Post to the wire I made for Edison C Frame

Going a lil backwards here. Way too many imperfections in the base that weren't being hidden. Stripped the paint and prepped for some body work. Using 3M light weight body filler as it's easy to carve down.

Picked my pedestal swan today! First one I have seen.

Finished up restoring this all brass. It runs in three distinct speeds. Circa 1911. No painting on this one. I sent the whole motor too Mark Olsen to have the stator rewound. He discovered that the rotor shaft had to be replaced and align the bearings. Mark did an awesome job! I can't thank him enough. The fan runs quiet and smooth. This is my second all brass fan. The other is an 8" Western Electric.

It’s finally here, safe and sound. The Old Forum is preserved for posterity! Special thanks to Larry, Jamie, Stan and the board for making this a reality!! I was happy to play a small part in this opportunity.

Weather Friday and Saturday to be 60- 70 degrees with less than 8% chance of rain!!!!!

Well said statement.

A flea market dealer friend of mine overheard a conversation between two other dealers about a wall-mount dragon brass fan one of them had just recently acquired. My friend gave me the contact info of the fan owner. I haven't seen the fan, and the owner is over four hundred miles away. I haven't yet contacted... Any suggestions for how much I should offer? Past experiences have shown me with some flea market / antique dealers, a low-ball offer is often considered an insult and will end any further conversation. AKA, NO DEAL, GO AWAY! Again, any suggestions to how much I should offer?

3 weeks until Fanapalooza II...If you are planning on coming please let me know. Everyone is welcome and last minute is fine, however, number of people coming helps plan food. No need to reply if you are already on the list above....remember Fully stocked bar Endless Spotted Cow On-site chef Door Prizes Galore Luke Combs and just added Bull Riding!!!