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Tideman Tidbits


Russ Huber

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  • 10 months later...

     Looking for Tideman's presence in Detroit, I found three directory listings:

1889 Detroit City Directory

Tideman Henry W.   Pattern maker   h. 307 Rowena

 

          1890 Detroit City Directory

          Tideman Henry W.   Pattern maker   h. 758 St. Antoine (very near in-laws who are at 773 St. Antoine)

 

                    1891 Detroit City Directory

                    Tideman Henry W.   Pattern maker   h.  308 Pallister  (which is in the vicinity of the new Woodward Ave. plant of the Detroit Electrical Works)

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     As a side note, in 1883 & 1884 there is a Henry Tiedemann boarding at 272 High St. and working as a brass finisher at Henry C. Hart Mfg., where among other products cast-iron bank models were produced... Previous generations of the family used the Tiedemann spelling of the name, and this individual's listing could at minimum be considered consistent with the Tideman biographical timeline... more to be looked into, it's a possible listing. I'm trying to tie in the first two Tideman patents (for a fire cracker toy gun and an umbrella stand) to a specific manufacturer...

 

   I  happened upon this volume which includes studies of various business enterprises, Detroit Electrical Works among them... fortunately.

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https://www.google.com/books/edition/_/MDM4phlnneEC?gbpv=1

   The second excerpted pages, fifth name down, is a 27-year-old born in Australia, Father born in Germany, married with one child, a pattern maker... Description fits perfectly, uniquely; this is William Henry Tideman.

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     His story is far from completely told, but these tidbits add to the picture.....

 

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If you dig around 92+ you will find Henry with his fingers in the pie establishing businesses many would be unaware of.  He had to have skin made of rawhide as it seems every time the ball got rolling another punch in the guts was waiting just around the corner. The death of his son William at the age of 39 must have been horrible for old man Tideman. William was the gifted engineer, like dad. Henry never saw retirement, his health started failing years before his death in 34-35.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Found this and thought...no way this is him...

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...then I found this earlier reference (also 207 S. Green St)...

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Same Henry Tideman or another electrical/mechanical engineer of the same name that likes to start companies?

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Arriving in the U.S. at 18...name spelled Heinr Tiedman and he was a locksmith at the time...

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8 hours ago, Russ Huber said:

I think Henry's first wife (Eveyln) passed away the same year the factory burned down in 05?

In 1910, she was still around...

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Remarried 12/30/1918 and divorced 4/30/1930...

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Shortly before divorce finalized, he's listed as a boarder on the 1930 census...last known address?

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13 hours ago, Jeff Lumsden said:

Tideman and Teideman

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Nice catch. The last descendent to contact me was the husband of Harold Tidemann bloodline. I wonder if they had this image?  They possessed art work done by Henry, and a 6 wing snowflake he owned.

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When Tideman left the newly incorporated Signal to Cairo he stripped the place of machinery and took a gaggle of the workers to Cairo, yet he remained Chairman of the board over Signal. He left Signal high and dry yet kept his fingers in the pie. Nice guy that old man Tideman.

Once in Cairo................

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Tideman patents (for a fire cracker toy gun

I’m sure that went over with a bang! What’s a few blind kids with missing fingers.😁

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55 minutes ago, Paul Carmody said:

Tideman patents (for a fire cracker toy gun

I’m sure that went over with a bang! What’s a few blind kids with missing fingers.😁

It's quite a thing he was attempting...

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Yes.  That's a hopper full of matches.  Hammer pushes one match forward and lights said match.  Flame is allowed to pass through the barrel where firecracker fuse resides.  No word on how children do not eventually set their parents' rugs on fire.

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