Doug Wendel Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 I saw an Emerson CF-1 "1895" re-issue fan for sale - 2-winger, no light kit. I know it's not antique or original, but looks pretty cool and pretty good quality. What are the opinions on these, and what would be an appropriate pr ice for a used one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kovar Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 7 hours ago, Doug Wendel said: ...Emerson CF-1 "1895" re-issue... ...not antique... ...opinions[?] I sure would like to have anoriginal to which to make acomparison. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) On 9/21/2022 at 11:09 PM, Jim Kovar said: I sure would like to have anoriginal to which to make acomparison. Only offered 2 years at 133 cycles. The last of the Alexander Meston patented concept design now for the first time a ceiling fan motor. Single metal brush on a commutator. Enjoy the pictures. 🙂 Edited September 23, 2022 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Campbell Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Personally if you like the look of it I'd say it's worth grabbing. It would look cooler than pretty much any other ceiling fan on the shelf. Mostly just depends on if you'd enjoy seeing it in your house. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kovar Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Emerson CF-1,... ...extinct* as the Emerson cone-base.*AFAIK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Jim Kovar said: Emerson CF-1,... ...extinct* as the Emerson cone-base.*AFAIK Maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Wendel Posted September 26, 2022 Author Share Posted September 26, 2022 Got it home and on the bench. This fan is large - especially compared to the 1510 and 16666 stumps sitting there. I'm not sure where I will be able to hang it, as I don't have very high ceilings, and this fan hangs pretty low. The one place where I currently have a pretty decent modern ceiling fan I could replace also needs a light. But it is cool looking. I'm told these sold at upwards of $700 new back when they were still making them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kovar Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 On 9/23/2022 at 2:22 PM, Russ Huber said: Maybe not. You holding back, Russ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Campbell Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 On 9/26/2022 at 1:13 PM, Doug Wendel said: Got it home and on the bench. This fan is large - especially compared to the 1510 and 16666 stumps sitting there. I'm not sure where I will be able to hang it, as I don't have very high ceilings, and this fan hangs pretty low. The one place where I currently have a pretty decent modern ceiling fan I could replace also needs a light. But it is cool looking. I'm told these sold at upwards of $700 new back when they were still making them. It looks really good! Is it made of metal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Wendel Posted September 28, 2022 Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 Yes, it's all metal. Cast aluminum I assume, as it's not super heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Atkinson Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 This model Emerson named "The Cornerstone". Pretty faithful reproduction based on looks alone. Every now and again I see one come up for sale second hand, but they never last long, and I've never been quick enough to nab one. They were expensive. Russ, where does it state the CF-1 was made only for two years at 133 cycles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1895 image below. The C.F.1 is in the 96 catalogue. 97 the brushless AC CF is introduced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 The 95 introduction C. F. 1 ceiling fan would be a prize find. Not only is it the last of the deceased Alexander Meston's single-phase brushed motor concept, at 133 cycles it would have had a tough time surviving out there in the world evolving to 60 cycles. Charles Meston was for most part a pencil pusher. Alexander Meston was deceased spring of 93. Just what Edwin Pillsbury and Fred Briner Emerson involvement contributed to Emerson induction motor engineering after Alexander's death up to 97........?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Cunningham Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Bill Hoehn found one. It was in an estate. I think he said they wanted $60,000 for the Estate. He passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Block Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I believe David Allen is in possession of a 133 cycle CF-1 motor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 August 1897 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Wendel Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 I'd love to see a pic of an original survivor. I've never heard of one in existance before the David Allen one mentioned above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Allen Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 19 hours ago, Andrew Block said: I believe David Allen is in possession of a 133 cycle CF-1 motor. Hi Andrew. Mine isn't a CF-1. It's a CF-27 or CF-30 I believe. Very poor condition but it does run. Here is a video of it being driven hard at 133 Hz and oversize blades. 😧 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, David Allen said: Hi Andrew. Mine isn't a CF-1. It's a CF-27 or CF-30 I believe. Very poor condition but it does run. Here is a video of it being driven hard at 133 Hz and oversize blades. 😧 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Old motor shop in Iowa had a CF-28 covered in dust in a box that someone brought decades ago and forgot.🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Warnecke Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 I have a CF-28 that was found in the wild in Kansas that I would love to bring back to life one day. It needs the expected switch and switch housing, and the top casting has some cracks and missing parts around the circumference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Minor Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I was fortunate enough to to purchase a CF-28 from Dr. Hoehn’s collection. The castings were all in great shape. I had it copper plated and oxidized but the project is currently on hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Atkinson Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/8/2022 at 12:31 PM, Steve Cunningham said: Bill Hoehn found one. It was in an estate. I think he said they wanted $60,000 for the Estate. He passed. I recall you sharing this story with me Steve. He had to buy the estate to get the fan. Don't blame him for passing. Probably sitting on someone's barn shelf in Missouri somewhere. It'll surface one day. Hope to be around to see it 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Block Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/9/2022 at 1:26 PM, David Allen said: Hi Andrew. Mine isn't a CF-1. It's a CF-27 or CF-30 I believe. Very poor condition but it does run. Here is a video of it being driven hard at 133 Hz and oversize blades. 😧 Whoops brain fart. 133 cycles deemed familiar 😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) On 11/8/2022 at 2:31 PM, Steve Cunningham said: Bill Hoehn found one. It was in an estate. I think he said they wanted $60,000 for the Estate. He passed. I take pictures of fans I can't own; it is easy to do. If I forgot my camera the day I went to an estate and saw an extremely rare fan that I could not buy, I would fly back home, borrow money to fly back, if necessary, get my camera, and fly back. 🙂 Edited November 13, 2022 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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