Peerless bipolar age

[Michael McMenamin]

I'm a new member of the AFCA and I am trying to determine the age of my Peerless 16" bipolar. I would appreciate any and all information that anyone can provide. I have attached a photo of the badge/plate that is on the top of the motor. Thank you. 

[Tony Clayton]

WOWWERS!

[Steve Cunningham]

My best guess is 1895-1900.

[Russ Huber]

Introduced 1899, remained on the market for 3 fan motor seasons, 1899-01. 

[Michael McMenamin]

Thanks for the info. I was hoping that the serial number would pinpoint the date. Some companies kept records of serial number ranges and their date of production. May not have happened that long ago. Thanks again.

 

[Russ Huber]

4 minutes ago, Michael McMenamin said:

Thanks for the info. I was hoping that the serial number would pinpoint the date. Some companies kept records of serial number ranges and their date of production. May not have happened that long ago. Thanks again.

 

1899-01 is a rather narrow window, Ya think? Warren Electric & Specialty Co. was established in 1892. Their first marketed fan motors were in 1899. In 1902 no more Warren Electric & Specialty fan motors. They were then known as Peerless or Colonial fan motors. If you want yours to be made on lets say........June 2, 1899 at 3:01 PM, fine with me.

This catalogue dates 1900.

Peerless direct current desk and ceiling fan motors. : Vallee Bros. Electrical Company : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

[Jim Roadt]

Michael any additional pictures appreciated 

[Russ Huber]

1902+. No more Warren Electric & Specialty Co. making fans.

[Russ Huber]

Mike, "please" show us your brass coverings over your field windings. 

I have more to offer regarding your serial.

Edited February 22, 2023 by Russ Huber

[Michael McMenamin]

Thanks Russ for the great info. Point well taken on the narrow window. Love the Vallee catalog. The motor and fan rotate almost 360, but does not tilt(swivel)? I'll post more photos shortly.

[Michael McMenamin]

Here are some photos. Hope it helps.

[Michael McMenamin]

Sorry about the size of the photos.

[Michael McMenamin]

Yes it was because I listed it as an oscillator which I have learned it is not. I decided I would rather bring it back to working order and learn as much as I can about antique fans. I am enjoying the process.

[Michael McMenamin]

That's it!  Thanks Chris. Is yours operational? 

[Russ Huber]

16 minutes ago, Michael McMenamin said:

Yes it was because I listed it as an oscillator which I have learned it is not. I decided I would rather bring it back to working order and learn as much as I can about antique fans. I am enjoying the process.

"IF" you're going to sell it, being you listed once and pulled it, I strongly suggest if you list again, just put it out there and let the auction take its course. The people that will pursue it don't need education on it. Trust me. Just some friendly advice. I myself collect United Electric Mfg. Co. fans. They rock!

[Michael McMenamin]

Thanks Russ. I don't plan to sell it anytime in the near future. I would like to bring it back to life and enjoy it. Having retired last year it will keep me busy for awhile. Thanks again. 

[Russ Huber]

1 minute ago, Chris Campbell said:

Not mine. Just thought may care to see cage/badge pattern for yours

This is his model.

[Russ Huber]

2 minutes ago, Michael McMenamin said:

Thanks Russ. I don't plan to sell it anytime in the near future. I would like to bring it back to life and enjoy it. Having retired last year it will keep me busy for awhile. Thanks again. 

Just a wise heads up if you do list it again, I need another fan like a hole in my head. Have fun with it. 

[Michael McMenamin]

Lol. You can never have too many fans!  I've had more fun with it in the last two weeks than in the two years that I've owned it.

[Michael McMenamin]

Thanks Russ for the "This is his model" photo. Now I know what type cage I have to find. Doesn't look like it had a badge on the cage. Maybe at the center of the blades or not at all.

[Russ Huber]

19 minutes ago, Michael McMenamin said:

Thanks Russ for the "This is his model" photo. Now I know what type cage I have to find. Doesn't look like it had a badge on the cage.

It dates 1901. The fan Chris posted is the earlier model. They improved the brushes in 01. It is known as the type A. The guard and guard supports were improved as well in 01 for that model. 

Finding that guard would be like looking for hens' teeth. Having one made would be the route to go. Enjoy your toy.

[Michael McMenamin]

Thanks Russ for cementing the 1901 date. My blades are each secured with three rivets like the photo and nothing covering the front hub on the blade shaft. That guard does look stronger than the one in Chris' photo. Fabricating a guard makes more sense than going on an impossible search. Thanks so much for all your advice.

[Russ Huber]

Hey Steveo, how many of those early 20th century Peerless have steel guards?

[Russ Huber]

 

Edited February 22, 2023 by Russ Huber

[Russ Huber]

The model G is a single speed.

Edited February 22, 2023 by Russ Huber