Cairo's News 18 On The Upcoming Menominee/Tideman Move South In 19

[Russ Huber]

[Steve Rockwell]

     Can be found at: https://idnc.library.illinois.edu/?a=cl&cl=CL1&sp=CAB&e=-------en-20--1--img-txIN----------

 

 

        1 Nov 1917   Cairo Bulletin

 

 

          11 Nov 1917 Cairo Bulletin

 

 

          Referencing https://www.afcaforum.com/forum1/63300.html and https://new.afcaforum.com/index.php?/topic/1669-found-an-idealtemco/#comment-11429, the building pictured was used as an office address, used by other business people. Of the three potential sites mentioned above, the Sycamore St. evidently (and only eventually) won out... Tideman met with the Iron Mountain ops in St. Louis, and he and son Harold inspected the Lansden property and seemed to show it some favor...

 

 

          29 Dec 1917 Cairo Bulletin

 

 

          26 Feb 1918 Cairo Bulletin

 

 

          12 Jun 1918 Cairo Bulletin

 

 

          9 Jul 1918 Cairo Bulletin

 

 

https://sites.rootsweb.com/~ilgssi/Cairo/obits_1918.html

 

 

          28 Aug 1918 Cairo Bulletin

 

 

          16 May 1919 Cairo Bulletin

 

 

          8 Oct 1919 Cairo Bulletin

 

 

          1 Nov 1919 Cairo Bulletin

 

 

          26 Jul 1920 Cairo Bulletin

 

 

          18 Jun 1921 Cairo Bulletin

 

 

          12 Mar 1922 Cairo Bulletin

 

 

          1 Jun 1922 Cairo Bulletin

 

 

          28 Oct 1922 Cairo Bulletin

 

 

 

          10 Dec 1922 Cairo Bulletin

 

[Russ Huber]

Nice work. You have been a busy Beaver on that Cairo paper link. Lol. Tideman descendent documentation I have brought up the disgruntled Menominee employees. But it was not brought up they were disgruntled years prior to the move. It is as if Tideman against the odds was determined to relocate his business closer to the south hell or high water. In the long run, that is just what he got, hell and high water up to his neck. On a medical related report Jeff Lumsden posted I saw the mention of hypertension on the document.  My bet both he and his wife mentioned here succumbed to long term high blood pressure due to rich German food and "Old man Tideman" always pushing the bar ever higher.

Your fine catch/work has now pointed out the true location of the plant and sales office Sycamore/Commercial. Walter Krebs was the receiver after Tideman left the chair in Cairo in Oct. of 21. Krebs had the "Ideal" badged fan motors on the market as early as 22. I knew Krebs was the receiver, I just couldn't pin down anything on him prior to 23.

Did Walter Krebs (Tideman Electric receiver) maintain motor and fan production 1922 until the 1927 W-P Corporation absorption?  #2. When did the Cairo plant eventually shut down after W-P Corp. introduced the Red Seal "Airster' fans 1928? The contents of the Cairo plant were auctioned off in 39.

[Russ Huber]

Tideman Electric Mfg. Co. of Cairo, IL. "Menominee" badged fans it appears were only on the market 1920 and 21 seasons. In 1920 it is clearly stated that Tideman Electric due to post WW1 material shortage was only able to manufacture the 9" fan motor line despite advertised intentions of marketing 9", 12", and 16" models. In 1921 electrical trade clearly states ALL models were marketed. It appears if you have a Tideman Electric of Cairo, IL. "Menominee" badged 12" or 16" model, it would date exclusively to the 21 season. 

Edited April 18, 2023 by Russ Huber

[Russ Huber]

The receiver in 22 was Walter A. Krebs, not O. Krebs. It appears real estate in the wealthy district of Cairo is no more. 🙂

1922.

 

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History

Cairo was once a thriving riverboat town with gorgeous mansions along Millionaire’s Row. Today, the town has fallen on hard times and crime stats are high. Even so, if a buyer has the moxie, this house could be a great one to restore. Washington Avenue (Millionaire’s Row) is where you will find gorgeous turn-of-the-century homes built by the most prominent citizens of the day. The Thomas Halliday House, a gorgeous brick Italianate built by a former Cairo mayor, is a short walk down Washington Avenue, and many other wonderful large homes and mansions line the once-upscale street.

Family History

Our featured home was owned by Walter Adolph Krebs (1874-1946), a lumber merchant, and his wife Della White Krebs (1876-1936). They lived with their son Walter Jr, Della’s brother William White, also a lumber merchant, and a servant. Walter Sr. was also vice president of the Cairo Auto Club.

 

Edited April 18, 2023 by Russ Huber

[Russ Huber]

Tideman factory location book to book is never numbered. Always listed as Upper Sycamore St.

[Russ Huber]

When old man Tideman resigned Oct. of 21 it appears he bailed and left a mess for the bankers prior to the receiver.  Details would be nice.

Edited April 19, 2023 by Russ Huber

[Russ Huber]

People v. Cairo-Alexander County Bank, 282 Ill. App. 343 | Casetext Search + Citator

In June, 1933, the property in the hands of the receivers was assigned to a new company, the Cairo Bridge Company, petitioner.

On March 3, 1933, the Cairo bank was closed by the bank moratorium of the State of Illinois, and never  again opened for general business. W. S. Corbley, appointed by the State auditor of public accounts, acted as conservator until August 2, 1933, when the State auditor of public accounts took possession of the bank. On August 15, 1933, the auditor appointed William L. O'Connell as receiver of the Cairo bank, and since that time he has been acting as such.

[Russ Huber]

Something tells me Red Seal Airster fan manufacturer got snuffed early slipping into the depression. I can't believe Tideman despite all the red flags suckered into moving the whole shebang down to Cairo. They built a huge factory with foundry dreaming they would have the fan & motor business by the tail. 

[Loren Haroldson]

Tideman's temper was horrible. His sons bought him a punching  bag for his office. You mention high blood pressure and  I suspect high blood pressure may have played a role in Diehl's wife going blind giving birth to their only child.  Hence, he needed to come up with bucks to send his wife and attendant back to Germany to seek out treatment which they never found. Perhaps has had to sell some patents to pay for this?

[Russ Huber]

19 minutes ago, Loren Haroldson said:

Tideman's temper was horrible. His sons bought him a punching  bag for his office. You mention high blood pressure and  I suspect high blood pressure may have played a role in Diehl's wife going blind giving birth to their only child.  Hence, he needed to come up with bucks to send his wife and attendant back to Germany to seek out treatment which they never found. Perhaps has had to sell some patents to pay for this?

Old man Tideman's son's (William) death in 27 my bet pushed his questionable health over the edge. William had all the qualities, talent, and natural engineering abilities to follow dad's footsteps. In short, my bet is William was his pride and joy. That family was cursed. William's wife blamed herself until her tragic death in 43 for Williams's death. She pushed him to move back from his engineering Job in Canton, Ohio to Menominee so she could be close to her family again. William was killed in a car accident there but a few years down the road from their return. His wife burned to death along with house she lived in 1943. The same year Tesla died.

[Russ Huber]

On 4/22/2023 at 8:33 PM, Loren Haroldson said:

I suspect high blood pressure may have played a role in Diehl's wife going blind giving birth to their only child.

Where in the hell did you get that tidbit? If you don't answer, I am going to email or call you.