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4 minutes ago, Jeff Lumsden said:

Financial troubles?

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I'm guessing if in a 1907 book, the case was prior to?

Let us know when you figure it out.

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I edited my posts. I am sorry, but I misread the manufacturer, and I was wrong. Frank Rae worked for the Detroit Electrical Works, not the Detroit Motor Co. His dynamo construction is closer to Mel's Detroit motor construction than anything I can find from the Detroit Motor Co. 

 

I saw Harry Blades listed as the Superintendent at the Detroit Motor Co. in 92.  WHY I can't find Mel's motor construction connected to Detroit Motor Co. is perplexing to me. 

 

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   Regarding the above-mentioned edit and its challenge, I backtracked to where I first located the Slater patent--- Belding research a year ago-- to another Slater patent...

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    Here is another answer to the challenge, but not the answer sought...

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     He next went to the Detroit Electrical Works, then moved to a larger Michigan concern. Later went to Mississippi and became involved in naval procurement work.

 

 

     1890 Whipple's Directory

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        Russ calls them wallets........

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   "Russ calls them wallets"........

I got that from Loren Haroldson. Back then, a fat wallet, or a few, was behind getting the ball rolling. 

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It is made clear in 80s Dentistry journals Fisher's patented Detroit Motor Co. motor was used for fan purpose, along with other dentistry related uses.

Just where Mel's motor fits in.......?

Steve, can you pin down when Detroit Motor Co. is no more? When do the disappear in the directories?

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Russ

 

Your access to these old patents and historical information about these early motors is awesome.  Harry Blades was quite the guy, but Henry Slater takes the cake.   What a life.  What a mind.  What a man.   He obviously overcame his “pecuniary embarrassment” and made something of himself.  
 

I cannot thank you enough for the history lesson on this fan outfit.   

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From various issues of The Electrical Age - 1890-1891. 

 H.H. Blades patents...

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4 hours ago, Mel Lagarde said:

Russ

 

Your access to these old patents and historical information about these early motors is awesome.  Harry Blades was quite the guy, but Henry Slater takes the cake.   What a life.  What a mind.  What a man.   He obviously overcame his “pecuniary embarrassment” and made something of himself.  
 

I cannot thank you enough for the history lesson on this fan outfit.   

We will tip our hats to Steve Rockwell for the introduction of Mr. Slater, amongst a number of other contributions. Curveball Kovar,  And Mr. Lumsden is gaining momentum for sure. : > )

Mel, 

Your motor design if I am not mistaken Is an English design referred to as the Manchester pattern. How exactly that fits in with the Detroit concern, and the timeline......?

We will leave Mr. Lumsden, Mr. Rockwell, and Mr. Kovar to their free time on the keyboard and the key words Manchester/pattern/motor/dynamo/generator.

 

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10 hours ago, Russ Huber said:

Curveball Kovar...

Never been called that before.

Screwball Kovar, er,...   yes.  732389432_wondering(1).gif.55c03bb0657621d36762ee85861ca2c2.gif

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The Electrical Age - 1895...

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And Blades was still around...

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The electrical categories that Detroit Motor Co. advertised...

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And where they did not (nor any other category)...

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One more patent for Mr. Blades (of Detroit) in 1896...after that The Electrical Age well runs dry for Mr. Blades. 

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At this point, he's in his mid 20's and does not show up working for any other of the Detroit outfits as Lockwood and Rae eventually did.  Where did he go?

Post 1895, I'm not finding any other references to Detroit Motor Co in The Electrical Age through 1900.

 

 

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These were sent to me by a member.   Posting them for the thread.   A very similar fan with different switch and cast iron base.   Tag is identical.  
 

Russ, I think you have it in the image of the Manchester motor posted on 3/2.   
 

Mel

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Detroit Motors Co is still listed in the 1897 edition...

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A dramatically smaller product category listing...

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The 1897 Michigan factory inspection report reports that the Detroit Motor Co factory was idle on the inspection date of October 15, 1896.

The 1898 Michigan factory inspection report no longer lists Detroit Motor Co period.

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In 1895, the factory was running - inspected on October 3, 1895...

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So sometime after October 3, 1895 and before October 15, 1896, the Detroit Motor Company's factory closed up shop.  This would put Mel's fan and the second example sometime prior to October 15, 1896.

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