Trevor Andersen Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Got this clamshell running and cleaned up. Had to delicately solder 2 broken wires on the armature. Rewrapped the coils and added new leads. Added a half wave diode. Original paint in decent shape. Not sure what year this one is as I haven't seen any others mentioned that have this red background badge. It has a steel blade and brass cage. Serial is 1910682. 20211224_134605.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Ray Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Never seen a Clamshell with a factory brass cage. But I love the looks of it. I love those fans for their simplicity and uniqueness. The diode is the way to go on those. Keeps them from running like a cracked out sewing machine 🤣 Great fan Trevor! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Andersen Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) In its spot now in the office. Edited December 24, 2021 by Trevor Andersen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) Electrical trade 16-19 won't support your guard as correct. The red badge to the best of my knowledge only been found on Tideman Electric Co. Cairo, IL. manufactured fans with a 1920 manufacturing start date. Tideman Electric Co. CAIRO manufactured fans started with only the 9" models manufactured in 20 due to the inability to obtain the raw materials to include the 12" and 16" models. 1921 was the first year the 9", 12", and 16" models were manufactured. Your brass guard first appeared on the 1917 8" oscillator type 129 models. The guard would have been in use 17-19 it appears Your type 150 would date late teens based on your inset brush holders, grease cups instead of screw down grease injectors, and aluminum tag. Edited December 24, 2021 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 FWIW...this is the type 150 1916 introduction date brush holder, grease screw down injector, and motor tag design. Enjoy your toy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butler Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 The cage and badge make an inexpensive fan look ten times more valuable. 👍 I had an Ideal with that red badge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Andersen Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share Posted December 25, 2021 5 hours ago, Russ Huber said: Electrical trade 16-19 won't support your guard as correct. The red badge to the best of my knowledge only been found on Tideman Electric Co. Cairo, IL. manufactured fans with a 1920 manufacturing start date. Tideman Electric Co. CAIRO manufactured fans started with only the 9" models manufactured in 20 due to the inability to obtain the raw materials to include the 12" and 16" models. 1921 was the first year the 9", 12", and 16" models were manufactured. Your brass guard first appeared on the 1917 8" oscillator type 129 models. The guard would have been in use 17-19 it appears Your type 150 would date late teens based on your inset brush holders, grease cups instead of screw down grease injectors, and aluminum tag. So Russ are you saying this fan isn't a known configuration and is probably a mix of a late teens Type 150 with a cage from the 129 oscillator and a badge from a separate Tideman made fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi Mevis Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 Yes, its basically a Frankenfan made with period correct Menominee parts from different Menominee models. Its not too uncommon to find a fan that's over 120+ years old to have parts swapped around on them because in the early 20th century people would take parts off of other fans to keep others going if something broke on them but they still worked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Trevor Andersen said: So Russ are you saying this fan isn't a known configuration and is probably a mix of a late teens Type 150 with a cage from the 129 oscillator and a badge from a separate Tideman made fan? Did you find the fan in a shop, or in the wild? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Andersen Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share Posted December 25, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Russ Huber said: Did you find the fan in a shop, or in the wild? It came from a shop. I bought all of these fans at the same time except the Gilbert and Blue line. Owner said they all came from the same giant lot at an auction house in Central Iowa. It came from some collector who is/was obsessed with Gilbert/Polar Cub. All my usual haunts have been flooded with them for the past 2 months. Edited December 25, 2021 by Trevor Andersen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 My distinct impression is your guard is from a Menominee 8" type 129 oscillator dating 1918-19. Why? Starting in 1918 the 8" type 129 oscillator retained its brass blade and brass guard, but, it was announced in 1918 electrical trade the model 129 would have a die cast (pot metal) gear box and motor housing. As you know these models would be vulnerable for a missing gearbox or fractures. It would then be easier to use the type 129 guard to rob Peter to pay Paul. I think you get my meaning. The badge is from a Cairo manufactured fan 1920+, unless some can prove me wrong. Merry Christmas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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