Russ Huber Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Jandus only announces in early 1910 the introduction of the Dayton fan motor with Bernard Stowe's patented oscillation mechanism. Jandus was outsourcing self-starting GE cake motors for their AC gyros as early as 06. Once again Jandus outsourced from GE their BMY centrifugal start motor for their AC gyros/desk fans starting in 09. Based on the 8" all brass AC and DC models posted above tagged/badged Jandus there is no doubt Jandus outsourced them for their 8" residence fan motor line in 1910 as well. The GE 1909 introduction drawn steel frame 8" models were a late 09 season introduction and with little doubt manufactured in limited numbers. Jandus may have not had a shot at marketing the 09 GE 8" models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Rathberger Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 When we had the old galleries I looked through the Jandus badged Daytons. Some had Dayton blades but at least one had a Jandus blade based on the hub. The drawing above clearly shows a Jandus hub. None of it ever made sense to me. I do have a Jandus blade sitting on a 8" all brass a collector in valpo turned up, has a AB tag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 24 minutes ago, Michael Rathberger said: When we had the old galleries I looked through the Jandus badged Daytons. Some had Dayton blades but at least one had a Jandus blade based on the hub. The drawing above clearly shows a Jandus hub. None of it ever made sense to me. I do have a Jandus blade sitting on a 8" all brass a collector in valpo turned up, has a AB tag. I don't know how Jandus/AB, GE, and Dayton conducted their fan motor exchange and marketing. That would be something one would have to resurrect the dead to get some answers. But they did it. It would 'appear' Jandus manufactured their own blades or had them manufactured elsewhere specifically for them. Nothing stopping Jandus from sharing one of their blades with Dayton Fan & Motor for their 8" model, especially when Jandus/AB is using a Dayton fan motor frame for their 8" oscillator. If Jandus/AB is outsourcing the GE 8" all brass for their residence fan motor line, what would stop them from putting one of their 8" blades on it, or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 No images to validate it, but I found a 1915 electrical trade book supporting GE with a 9" desk fan. No GE fan motor bulletin for 1915 yet. I have seen physical evidence from Steve Rockwell to support GE was intending to move on from the 8"drawn brass frame in 1914. Not sure if the 8" GE models were drawn brass frame after 14. In 1915 and 1916 GE 8"and 9" models shared the market it appears. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 (edited) 12 hours ago, Russ Huber said: No images to validate it, but I found a 1915 electrical trade book supporting GE with a 9" desk fan. No GE fan motor bulletin for 1915 yet. I have seen physical evidence from Steve Rockwell to support GE was intending to move on from the 8"drawn brass frame in 1914. Not sure if the 8" GE models were drawn brass frame after 14. In 1915 and 1916 GE 8"and 9" models shared the market it appears. I sent the electrical trade images above to Steve Rockwell late yesterday and he sent a message back this morning with another interesting tip he highlighted from the 15 GE article seen below. The 8" construction in 15 was now......DRAWN STEEL FRAME. The fan images on this post were shared with me from Tim Marks. It is a 9" model with drawn steel frame. 1915 electrical trade supports a 9" model. Check out the date on Tim's instruction label on the 9" model switch. Edited November 5 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Lindsey Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 This one is very close to that one by serial number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Anthony Lindsey said: This one is very close to that one by serial number. Check out your category numbers. 2 different animals. Could be offered in steel or brass trimmings same year. The 1915 GE fan motor bulletin may have the answers. Still not available. Edited November 5 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Marks Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Took me a bit to find some time to post the pictures of my display 8in GE fans. Please find them below. I have many others in the shop in various states from original and solid (but not gone over by myself) to parts. If anyone needs some serial numbers just let me know. Special thanks to Ted for starting this thread and showing his beautiful collection. I'm especially impressed with the condition of not one but TWO oscillators. Sadly my oscillators are pieced together with whiz parts or broken. Once I resolve those issues I'll surely be putting them on display. Also special thanks to the two great historians of our wonderful club, Russ Huber and Steve Rockwell. We are lucky to have you both. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Borg Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 1 hour ago, Tim Marks said: Took me a bit to find some time to post the pictures of my display 8in GE fans. Please find them below. I have many others in the shop in various states from original and solid (but not gone over by myself) to parts. If anyone needs some serial numbers just let me know. Special thanks to Ted for starting this thread and showing his beautiful collection. I'm especially impressed with the condition of not one but TWO oscillators. Sadly my oscillators are pieced together with whiz parts or broken. Once I resolve those issues I'll surely be putting them on display. Also special thanks to the two great historians of our wonderful club, Russ Huber and Steve Rockwell. We are lucky to have you both. Hi Tim- I'll second the gratitude for Steve and Russ's contributions. Is this one copper? Factory? Sorry I missed your meet, was messy as you know, hope to meet up another time. All the best... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 11 minutes ago, Roger Borg said: Hi Tim- Is this one copper? Factory? Special finishes 1910-13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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