Jim Roadt Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Do GE two stars generally have bb bc? This one is sb sc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roadt Posted February 18, 2022 Author Share Posted February 18, 2022 What is that ID tag on base? Looks like somebody had an extra GI Joe tag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Dunlap Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 The two stars were made smack in the middle of the WWI brass shortage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roadt Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 If Bottom plate and badge are correct it looks like original color was the GE dark green. I was going to pontypool it I may switch to Charleston Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave McManaman Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 I have two of the two stars that came from the same farmstead. One has a half brass, half steel, cage. The other is all steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Deloria Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 My two star is SC/SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butler Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 I have a 32v. DC version with a brass cage and a gold painted steel blade. Also a 110v. DC with a brass blade and steel cage. Either they used whatever they had available or the inspector needed some new glasses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roadt Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 39 minutes ago, Steve Butler said: I have a 32v. DC version with a brass cage and a gold painted steel blade. Also a 110v. DC with a brass blade and steel cage. Either they used whatever they had available or the inspector needed some new glasses. I believe Henry is the guy in the twilight zone that just wanted to be left alone to read his books and his glasses broke.....be careful what you wish for 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Todd Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Jim, I believe you are referencing Burgess Meredith in that Twilight Zone episode although the glasses were much the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roadt Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 41 minutes ago, Robert Todd said: Jim, I believe you are referencing Burgess Meredith in that Twilight Zone episode although the glasses were much the same. Yes that is Burgess meredith playing Henry Bemis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Nyman Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 This is a little off topic but I assume this is a 75423 which is my favorite GE...has anyone done a timeline of the production run from say the 3 star (1915-ish) BC BB steel disk through say the '22-ish no-star BB SC Brass bell along with the correct colors for each? I know this may be impossible as they did use whatever was laying about the shop such as 3 or 4 conductor headwires of which only 2 would be used... and the colors, even in the same year could be Charleston-ish or just black as with the brass bell. Mr Stevens has literature about colors for some of those years which only refers to their colors as "GE green enamel"...kinda vague. Hopefully you get the intent of my question, even if it's only "ish-y". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roadt Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 That is one ugly green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Rockwell Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Hey Jim Roadt, Lionel used a very similar shade I have not gone to any effort to recreate original shade GE green, which as has been pointed out numerous times in the past is highly variable. Darker-green, apple-green, ever-... And, exposed green is different from obscured (like under your tag), making the whole original color notion a bit academic. I ran into a similar situation years ago dealing with Delta Specialty and Delta-Milwaukee/Rockwell machinery gray, and I never had confidence that the variety of shades wasn't caused by component tints fading at different rates... I prefer the William Dunlap method of utilizing the near-infinite colors afforded by automotive paints, and if something custom is desired, the local shop can mix it... Which is to say, pick a color you like and paint the fan thusly, original be d@Ωπed since, with GE non-black, it can only be guessed at... though it can be guessed at with some reasonable confidence... Saying it's two-star narrows it down to about a five-year time of production, and if you're truly going for correctness, Form and Serial Number help greatly to narrow the range. Even that particular paper label (L-10427) on the base was re-printed over time, and can only provide an earliest possible date of manufacture (14 May 1917), if it is original equipment. And, there's nothing I've seen in any of the included photos to argue against originality. Wanna post the tag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roadt Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 Thanks Steve I am not a stickler for originality Charleston Green it will be Motor tag below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Rockwell Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 And Thanks right back at you. I stitched the images together... To give an idea what I'm saying, my little database has the 75423 model-- the GE 12" oscillating fan-- and that model alone, Form S, having a range from serial number 1195644 to 1379544 (so far). Ranges extend a bit beyond those numbers, either above or below, with other models. This list is limited by the relatively short while I've compiled, and the limited selection from which I pluck the data. For contrast, the 75423 Form V spans numbers 1206531 to 1457000 beyond which, for 75423, only spec. numbers are printed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kovar Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 6 hours ago, Jim Roadt said: That is one ugly green 5 hours ago, Steve Rockwell said: Lionel used a very similar shade Also known as... "pea soup green." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Adams Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Like the others said, you never know on two stars. I have one on the shelf SB SC, another BB SC, & the one I helped Julie Emr with was SB BC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Nyman Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 My Mom used to refer to that color as baby-shit green...if it aint one thing then it's your Mother. She was a very classy dame but not afraid to say to tell it like it is ...but I'd still like to know if, perhaps on the old forum, there is at least some sort of general guide for what materials were used in which years of these early 75423's...if it's just not possible then ok but any help would be great as they are easy to work on, they work well, look sharp and are still out there in the wild for a reasonable price...at least for now and personally I'd like to know how to treat them right. Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roadt Posted February 20, 2022 Author Share Posted February 20, 2022 Is this GI Joe dog tag original? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Adams Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 It is some company’s inventory tag. Didn’t come on the fan, but added by the owner. Was probably installed when the fan was purchased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roadt Posted February 20, 2022 Author Share Posted February 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Stan Adams said: It is some company’s inventory tag. Didn’t come on the fan, but added by the owner. Was probably installed when the fan was purchased. Thanks Stan I think I will keep it on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roadt Posted February 20, 2022 Author Share Posted February 20, 2022 Next problem I want to remove the star and that brass screw. That brass screw will not budge. Two days of penetrating oil, heat, and purple power to dissolve any paint....and nothing. hopefully the swearing is muted Any suggestions appreciated 20220220_143604.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Lindsey Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 The brass screw has a set screw under the lid. Some of the have the set screw inthe same hole as thecover screw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Lindsey Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Take the cover off and it will be under it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roadt Posted February 20, 2022 Author Share Posted February 20, 2022 46 minutes ago, Anthony Lindsey said: Take the cover off and it will be under it Thanks Anthony....new problem how do I get Star off to get cover off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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