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  2. Lawrence Smith

    Fan efficiency measurements.

    This custom fan would be a great candidate to test , it has a .5 capacitor stator , new speed coil with a 71666 blade . I’ve ran it for hours already with no issues , high speed is a wind machine with the higher rpm, low speed is less than 400 rpm
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  4. Louis Luu

    Dynamo.

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  6. Russ Huber

    Fan efficiency measurements.

    Billy Skolfield in the flesh.
  7. John McComas

    Fan efficiency measurements.

    Good job Bill. I came to the same conclusion years ago about the Emerson 12 & 16" APG fans. Mike Coup of Vornado had quite a setup for measuring fan capacity & efficiency. They demo'd it to the AFCA members years ago when we had Fan Fair in Wichita. You can also find testing by GE labs back in the 1940's using weight scales and suspending the whole fan facing downward and measuring weight change based on air flow thrust. I always thought that would be an easy setup to compare all different styles of fans by measuring watts consumed and change in weight caused by thrust. Sorry, I could not find the picture of the test setup, but I did find one of Stan's boy doing some testing...
  8. Anyone out there have the 12" Westy residence 6-pole 6-wing stationary tank Style # 133582 wound for 200-230 volts??
  9. OOPS 😸 I miss typed the style #’s on the stationary 6 blade Tank !! Yes it is 133580 !!
  10. Bill Dunlap

    Fan efficiency measurements.

    This exercise showed me that at the least, I have a fan that bears looking at more closely. The fan which I thought was a 73646 probably isn't that at all, and running it with a 12 inch four wing blade buys me nothing. It may be a six wing motor, or 16 inch and maybe it's designed for overlapping blades. So, maybe this weekend I'll pop the cover off and have a another look. In the meantime, I'm going to use something that moves air more cheaply. Cheers, Bill
  11. I have a 16” and 12” model PowerAire. I never figured it out. If you do please post photos. My 16” is a garage fan. My wife bought it in 1985 for $4.50. It sat unrestored until about 6 years ago. It a quiet fan and one of my favorites. Just because it works flawlessly 👍
  12. John Landstrom

    Fan efficiency measurements.

    The whole idea blew me away !
  13. Louis Luu

    Fan efficiency measurements.

    The whole system is all rigged I tell yah!
  14. Bill Dunlap

    Fan efficiency measurements.

    This meter measures wind speed in mph and kph, volume in lpm and cfm. The math is done internally and is essentially mysterious to me. The accuracy, even according to their manual isn't great, but the numbers can be useful anyway, especially when used for comparisons. Cheers, Bill
  15. 133580 and 133581 style #s for a stationary 12" residence 6-pole 6-wing tank. It is my impression one more style # is missing. That would be style # 133582 for the 200-230 volt model.
  16. Can anyone please help me with antique GE 1923 fan.
  17. Jeff, please recheck your Style #. Does it state 133580?
  18. John Landstrom

    Two holes in GE AOU badge

    Cage badge ? Base tag ? Base tag and pic would help too.
  19. Tim Babcock

    Two holes in GE AOU badge

    I have a GE AOU badge that has two holes drilled that go through the badge and the back plate. I have not seen this before. Is this some modification done by an owner or did GE do this on some fans?
  20. Doug Wendel

    Fan efficiency measurements.

    I have the same question as David Allen. I see how this measures velocity at a certain distance, but I don't see how it measures volume of air moved over time (CFM). I'm sure I'm missing something.
  21. Bejon A. Boranian

    Fan design for 2024 (Vintage)

    ...Last one for today: SANYO Blade, now in light neon effect Orange. Depending on lighting and how you look at it, this blade will produce a slight "Neon" effect glow. PICS:
  22. David Allen

    Fan efficiency measurements.

    This is a very interesting test! I am trying to understand how that instrument is measuring CFM based only on the velocity of air at one point. Did you have to program in the area of the aperture through which the air is passing? I've assisted technicians at industrial sites using meters similar to that for measuring CFM from HVAC systems in the past. They usually had a large funnel-shaped hood which brought the air together into an opening of known diameter; where the meter was located. The hood part was baffled to smooth out turbulent and uneven airflow; as well as capture all the air from the source.
  23. Louis Luu

    8 inch Menominee with detachable gearbox.

    Type 155 with detachable gearbox. I have another where the lower portion and back motor is a single unit.
  24. Russ Huber

    8 inch Menominee with detachable gearbox.

    When Henry Tideman took off to Cairo in late 1919, he was still calling the shots at the newly incorporated Menominee Signal. He was Chairman of the board at Signal when he left for Cairo and remained so. Henry told Signal management that they could not make fans like his. This is supported by validated ephemera I received from a Tideman descendant. Darryl Hudson's website had (past tense) Menominee history written by and reported to Loren Haroldson in past as I understand from Mike Breedlove who visited with Signal Employees in the past up in Menominee. I see what appears to me that the Menominee history Loren shared was removed from Darryl's website. It presently states "updates coming soon". I gained the mentioned information through message with Loren years ago. Loren stated Mike had reported to Loren there was a 5-year agreement that Signal could not make fans. This was not valid. This is one of the disadvantages of gaining fan motor history by trusted word of mouth. I myself have had to learn hard lessons through the years reporting fan motor history factual through valid documentation. I have made many mistakes posting in past, and at times, at present. I certainly mean no disrespect to Loren, Darryl, or Mike Breedlove. I miss Loren Haroldson as he was always straight up about his findings and faults. He had a very personable approach to the fan manufacturers he sleuthed. Long story short, Henry Tideman held the reigns to Menominee fan motor design and manufacture from his Menominee, MI. departure in 19, and the following 1920-21 seasons in Cairo, IL before Henry resigned his chair in Oct. of 21. He may well have kept similar fan motor designs left at Menominee in 19 and implemented them in the following 20-21 seasons at Cairo, IL. His engineer son William was in charge on the floor at Cairo up until late winter 21. Those late teens Menominee fan motor designs and early 20s may well be William's engineering. Darryl is in charge as I witness it in the Fan Collector Mag. for Menominee history. It has been many years he has been in charge. I look forward to his numerous years of compilation of the factual Menominee history on his website.
  25. Bejon A. Boranian

    Fan design for 2024 (Vintage)

    ..."logo/ badge" equip test using a Dish soap bottle component I salvaged: In this case, a 70's Sears Roebuck fan is proposed using my latest generation SANYO blade.
  26. Bejon A. Boranian

    Fan design for 2024 (Vintage)

    ...Santo Dynamic Wide: The next generation: Latest version so far... ...See the difference as the blade is developed and tested:
  27. Bejon A. Boranian

    Fan design for 2024 (Vintage)

    ...Yes! 💡💡 There's a way: NEW 2024 blade Construction process: Absolutely no glue! Simple, purposeful design. PICS:
  28. Bejon A. Boranian

    Fan design for 2024 (Vintage)

    ...I have... ...Hundreds of gear/ pulley/ etc... ...also thousands of screws of all sizes... ...Certainly, there's a way to make use of them all??? ???.... Perhaps improve and simplify my blade construction in the process..? (Kitty is my quality control today 😻)
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