Anthony Lindsey Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Wonder who got this? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Rathberger Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Not me is all I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 51 minutes ago, Anthony Lindsey said: Wonder who got this? Someone who spent $2,499.00 to get their stationary fan to oscullate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Lindsey Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 https://www.ebay.com/itm/145747508319 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) Google Patents US859181 Montezuma Scott. Edited April 29 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Those vane tables (termed deflector) were still on the market through the James Goldmark (long term exclusive Eck agency Goldmark & Wallace dissolved in 06-07) NY agency in 1916. There must have been a significant number of them made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 (edited) It appears they hit the market in 09 being manufactured in Thompsonville, Conn. and marketed through various agencies. Two primary agencies being Chicago and New York. I see them on the market in electrical trade in 1916 and appear to drop off 17 season. Edited April 30 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 (edited) 1912. Edited April 30 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 The question is.....WHO financed the design using Montezuma Scott's patent and set up manufacture of the Simplex oscillating base in Thompsonville, CT ? 1499072472517865510-00859181 (storage.googleapis.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 The Simplex fan deflector table on the market in 09-10 Electrical Record does not include the James Goldmark NY agency name. Starting in 1911-16 the Simplex fan deflector table appears to be marketed exclusively through the James Goldmark NY agency. The Simplex vane table it appears has a higher probability to surface out on the east coast. Still no leads as to who the wallet was to get the Simplex vane device manufactured and on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Rockwell Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 (edited) Anthony Lindsey's question in the first Post remains unaddressed...Here's a partial answer to Russ Huber's question: If it interests, here are some patents by Simplex contributors (eventually Extensive Manufacturing) It seems as if most parties involved in this story were inventors/patentees, Charles Fancher the most prolific of the bunch. Their company produced metallic objects of various sorts, and I imagine that Scott's fan table was an addition to such a list, as opposed to being a line of continued product development (See M. Scott below)... It may be that Montezuma Scott was a part of Russ' listed 313 Dearborn St. Chicago office of Simplex Mfg... Scott didn't particularly have a focus in his patent list, though after the Simplex patent he wasn't finished with fan oscillation... food for speculation The following may be a notice for him, assuming that not too many Montezuma Scotts walked the earth at that time... Edited May 2 by Steve Rockwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Is there a video of one of those oscillating tables with fan mounted in action? If not, someone who owns one make one, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Luu Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Kim Frank had posted a video...here on this new website. Let me see if I get lucky with the search engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Luu Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 IMG_0899.MOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Luu Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Just now, Louis Luu said: IMG_0899.MOV Obviously, it is with a pancake fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 James Goldmark was able to market the Simplex vane tables as late as 16 to turn of century stationary fan motor buyers. Around 10-13 circa a number of mechanical oscillators were starting to flood the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Frank Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Somebody got themselves a good deal. We reproduced the Simplex Vane table, initially making 8 tables with another 10 in progress. We used the dimensions of an original table, then increased the size about 5%, making it a bit larger and stouter. The original is delicate looking. We wanted an example for the museum to show how a stationary fan was no longer inferior to the more modern oscillating fan, with this table. The entire reproduction is documented so as not to be confused with an original, of which I know of three now. We displayed the reproduction side by side with an original at Fan Fair Springfield, running it continuously for 10 hours a day with a Emerson 1500 borrowed from Larry Hancock. It performed flawlessly for the four days of the show. We presold all of the remaining tables and we hopefully have them all done by years end. The original was for sale too, with a price tag of $8500 as I remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Lindsey Posted May 7 Author Share Posted May 7 and I almost bought it but let it go. Shoulda, coulda, woulda..... but didn't. Maybe another will come along. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roadt Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 1 hour ago, Anthony Lindsey said: and I almost bought it but let it go. Shoulda, coulda, woulda..... but didn't. Maybe another will come along. and maybe Aaron Rodgers will lead the Jets to back to back Superbowls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Lindsey Posted May 7 Author Share Posted May 7 hahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Katona Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 If it makes you feel any better, it was bought at a northern Indiana Amish estate sale. Meaning it was probably cheap, very cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 13 hours ago, Jim Roadt said: and maybe Aaron Rodgers will lead the Jets to back to back Superbowls 28 minutes ago, Joey Katona said: If it makes you feel any better, it was bought at a northern Indiana Amish estate sale. Meaning it was probably cheap, very cheap. Anthony don't let a few punches in the guts get you down. I am here for you fan brother. Mix a few of these up in the safety and comfort of your home, by the time you get to #3, you won't remember what a silly Simplex was. All you will experience is the bliss feeling of ......comfortably numb. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Lindsey Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 😪😥😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Rathberger Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 11 hours ago, Joey Katona said: If it makes you feel any better, it was bought at a northern Indiana Amish estate sale. Meaning it was probably cheap, very cheap. Jeeze Joey, I thought you lived up there... That said, and I am not saying a word about repop, to each their own, but once it's done to a pretty decent degree, I think it diminishes the value of an original. I doubt 75% of the current collectors give a crap about originality so they're not paying up for an original and you've lost uniqueness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Luu Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, Michael Rathberger said: Jeeze Joey, I thought you lived up there... That said, and I am not saying a word about repop, to each their own, but once it's done to a pretty decent degree, I think it diminishes the value of an original. I doubt 75% of the current collectors give a crap about originality so they're not paying up for an original and you've lost uniqueness. Agree. I like to buy things that are fun but not necessarily original. I appreciate original and well made recreations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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