Matthew Albach Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) I need your help on this survey I’m willing to go for it again. but can’t do it alone I need serial number type of centrifugal switch type 1 or 2 the speed switch fabric or ceramic Buber of wings also on the transion models as well Thank you very much Edited June 23, 2022 by Matthew Albach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Stephens Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) Mathew, I have added photos of my S-3 stationary and S-4 stationary fans. The S-3 has the ceramic switch and the S-4 the fiber switch. I don't know the difference between Type 1 and 2 centrifugal switches but these two fans seem so have the same switch with a thin metal piece on the rear that has three? bent over metal parts or tabs and not the thicker disc. The cages on these early century fans are 2-⅝" deep compared to 3-⅛" deep on the stamped steel base models, see picture below showing comparison of 12" models side by side. My observations seem to show that the early Century models did not have the black oxide finish on the cage badge or motor tag like later Centurys have. Edited June 23, 2022 by Steve Stephens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Rathberger Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Am I seeing different hookups depending on line voltage? 100-108 and 110-120 on the switch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Albach Posted June 23, 2022 Author Share Posted June 23, 2022 If you have those types of voltage it’s going to be fiber or ceramic type switch as for. Steven your Fans are type 1 centrifugal switch type 2 has the shield type in the back like Fred Berry has in his s3 6762 thank you for the information . steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Wendel Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Here's one I picked up a few months ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Wendel Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) I think you might have this one already, as it resides with another afca member now. It was a 16", 6-pole, 4-wing, with the stator laminates exposed between the two motor caps. No. 5197. 5-speed. This is the only pic I have (it back in the super-low-res digital age). Unfortunately I took the stator to a motor shop for rewinding and lost track of it. 😞 Edited June 24, 2022 by Doug Wendel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Albach Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) Thank you Doug appreciate the information!!! Edited June 24, 2022 by Matthew Albach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) S3 cast base models with the + cast pivot sequential. 8076-5406. Anyone have a cast base S3 with the + cast pivot to add? Edited June 24, 2022 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Steveo's S3 motor construction places his early cast pivot design 1912+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Albach Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 Thank you Russ got allot of work to do so far I got 2 of the Transition models from split phase to self start the survey is coming along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Doug Wendel said: It was a 16", 6-pole, 4-wing, with the stator laminates exposed between the two motor caps. No. 5197. 5-speed. Are you sure about that? Edited June 24, 2022 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 The blade on the fan belongs to a 1916+ 16" Peerless fan. Notice the curled blade wings going all the way up to the hub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 I would love to see in the flesh a Century 12" FACTORY 6 pole stator wind with motor bell removed . The Century 6 wing blades have as much pitch as the 4 wing blade. And 5 speeds on a 6 pole 6 wing motor? I can't rule it out, but if someone that has a factory Century 6 pole stator and would be kind enough to share a picture of the wind, much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 54 minutes ago, Russ Huber said: I would love to see in the flesh a Century 12" FACTORY 6 pole stator wind with motor bell removed . The Century 6 wing blades have as much pitch as the 4 wing blade. And 5 speeds on a 6 pole 6 wing motor? I can't rule it out, but if someone that has a factory Century 6 pole stator and would be kind enough to share a picture of the wind, much appreciated. Posted in past with photos credited to Geoff Dunaway. Later cast base(with rear rotor cover) S3 6 wing Century residential desk fan with FACTORY 6 pole winding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Once again, past post with images credited to Geoff Dunaway of a later drawn steel base phase shift start factory S3 6 wing Century residence fan motor with now a factory 4 pole motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Randy Halbert LATER Century S4 6 pole motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) S3 cast base Century serial: S3 drawn steel base serial: Edited June 24, 2022 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 It appears the cut off between the S3 cast base centrifugal start models and the S3 drawn steel base phase shift start models is between serials 8076 and 8665. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Stephens Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Russ, you have not mentioned anything about the CENTURY S3S models which I know little about. Similar to the S-3 but the motor is a larger diameter but smaller than an S4. Geoff has one missing the motor tag and one other member has one which is complete. Geoff's Century fans in photos, the one missing the motor tag is probably the S3S model. The photos with fans on their base show the S3S in the middle with a mid sized motor. Does anyone know more about this fan? The owner of the S3S sent me this information: Tag, S3S, says it is a Mod 14 while the S3 is a Mod 15. No of S3S is 30691 while number of S3 is 59396 so is much later. Is a pat date on S3 tag of 12-29-14 - - is no pat date on tag of S3S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Wendel Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Russ Huber said: The blade on the fan belongs to a 1916+ 16" Peerless fan. Notice the curled blade wings going all the way up to the hub. Got it! That's actually what I'd thought originally too. I have a little database I used to keep up until about 400 fans, so I had some detailed notes about the stator and blade I'd found on it, along with a 6-wing 12" blade I had hoped to install.. But then I lost the stator. Unfortunately, it was in the infancy of the digital photography era, and I never got good pictures of the fan. I sold the remainders to ???? (name is escaping me at the moment, but he's on here). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Albach Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 Let’s keep this going it’s getting interesting seeing how things unfold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 7 hours ago, Doug Wendel said: I think you might have this one already, as it resides with another afca member now. It was a 6-pole with the stator laminates exposed between the two motor caps. No. 5197. 5-speed. Wendel just added the early serial 5197 to the cast base S3 models listed in sequence above. Validating it is a 6 pole would be nice. Whoever owns it here would you please post it minus the wrong blade, struts, and guard? It appears starting in 12-13 EXCLUSIVELY the cast base 6 wing residence models got the 6 pole stators...so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Steve Stephens said: Russ, you have not mentioned anything about the CENTURY S3S models which I know little about. There is nothing in electrical trade for me to validate an answer for you. Give me some time to reason them along with the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Albach Posted June 26, 2022 Author Share Posted June 26, 2022 Like to know more about this century s3S is it a self start or split phase ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 Century 12" 6 wing residence fan motors had their last season on the market in 1916. 1917 no longer listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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