Louis Luu Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 (edited) Just picked up this vertical toy motor fan. I have never own a vertical toy motor fan before. I will be turning this into a mini-bank teller's fan. The base diameter is 6.5cm. the height is 5cm. or 8cm. including the shaft. Edited August 7, 2022 by Louis Luu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Luu Posted August 7, 2022 Author Share Posted August 7, 2022 I can draw the struts. The blade and cage will need to be outsourced to someone else who can do a much better job than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Sanders Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Can't wait to see your progress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Stephens Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Patent: http://www.google.pn/patents/US1577280 Patent: http://www.google.pn/patents/US1577280 Note that in the patents and descriptions of this fan as well as the Menominee vertical axis fans a number of purposes for the fans are stated but nowhere will one find that they were designed for bank teller use. The Menominee is a "table fan" and the Xippas was a room ventilator per the patent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Luu Posted August 7, 2022 Author Share Posted August 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Steve Stephens said: Patent: http://www.google.pn/patents/US1577280 Patent: http://www.google.pn/patents/US1577280 Note that in the patents and descriptions of this fan as well as the Menominee vertical axis fans a number of purposes for the fans are stated but nowhere will one find that they were designed for bank teller use. The Menominee is a "table fan" and the Xippas was a room ventilator per the patent. Agree. Nonetheless, I can pretend to be a banker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kovar Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Louis Luu said: Agree. Nonetheless, I can pretend to be a banker. Louis, will you lendme some money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Luu Posted August 7, 2022 Author Share Posted August 7, 2022 35 minutes ago, Jim Kovar said: Louis, will you lendme some money? Sorry. The printer is currently offline. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Carter Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Your small motor is a #16 Kendrick & Davis (aka Kent Attwater) “Electric Top” circa 1901. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Luu Posted August 8, 2022 Author Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Jay Carter said: Your small motor is a #16 Kendrick & Davis (aka Kent Attwater) “Electric Top” circa 1901. Thank you. This would be the same K&D for the Porter? I have the tops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Carter Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Yes. Kendrick & Davis (K&D)seemed to be the name used for the Porter series of small motors (and possibly Kent) early after ca. 1900 . K&D may have bought the Porter line-up , or just the patents ? K&D seem to have evolved latter to mostly quality jeweler’s tools. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1498406747678295000-00671891 (storage.googleapis.com) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Luu Posted August 8, 2022 Author Share Posted August 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Russ Huber said: 1498406747678295000-00671891 (storage.googleapis.com) I have those color wheels....now I can attach them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Description quote: " Fig. 7 is a plan of the fan." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Carter Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 I think K&D called the earlier Porter Motor line-up as “Standard” s. At least they did in their ca. 1909 catalogs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Cunningham Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 I think at some time it was Porter, then Porter-Leavitt, then K&D Porter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Luu Posted August 8, 2022 Author Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) Got the hub done today. When I get the motor, I will scaled it down to proportion. Edited August 8, 2022 by Louis Luu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Luu Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 I recognize the knurled thumb nut. The same knurled thumb nut is used on Porter No. 1 and 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kovar Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Picture snags fromWorthPoint... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Luu Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jim Kovar said: Picture snags fromWorthPoint... Thank you. I will have to take a closer look at it when it gets here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Luu Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) Edited August 9, 2022 by Louis Luu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Dunlap Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 That must be a permanent magnet DC motor. Hope there is still some magnetism left...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Luu Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Bill Dunlap said: That must be a permanent magnet DC motor. Hope there is still some magnetism left...... Not sure about the magnetism. I assumed it is a regular? The gentleman I bought it from told me it runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Carter Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 On 8/8/2022 at 4:12 PM, Steve Cunningham said: I think at some time it was Porter, then Porter-Leavitt, then K&D Porter. Year 1900 leaflets and brochures show a brief claim by “Kent” (of Arthur Atwater Kent Sr. fame) for the Porters, then quick subsequent advertising catalogs to Kendrick and Davis thereafter ward. Extra — Pic of 1909 No. 16 K&D advertising of the Electric Top 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Luu Posted August 10, 2022 Author Share Posted August 10, 2022 19 hours ago, Bill Dunlap said: That must be a permanent magnet DC motor. Hope there is still some magnetism left...... I have my doubts it is a magnet base motor. If you look at the center of the rotor, note that it is rather heavy piece...momentum for spin...to keep it going. The two ends of the rotor would chase the iron as it whips around while being energize through the commutator. That is my guess. I have seen similar design done this way for Geissler rotators as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Luu Posted August 10, 2022 Author Share Posted August 10, 2022 Color wheel: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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