Anthony Lindsey Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Picked this up. Actually runs on all 3 speeds. Cage is brass but front ring is steel which is sort of odd. Did they run out of brass rings and put a steel one on it to keep production moving? Brass shortage? They had enough brass for the rest of the cage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Stephens Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Regarding the brass ring on a steel cage, during WWI with the brass shortage some strange things happened and many factories including GE used what they had on hand. Your Sprague looks to be from 1919, maybe 1918? I had a very nice original 12" Sprague AOU Form V brass bell oscillator from 1920 which, when I bought it, I thought was black but, carrying it to my car in the sun I could see it was a VERY dark green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) Sprague oscillating desk & bracket AC and DC models 1919. Edited September 14, 2022 by Russ Huber 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) Sprague oscillating desk & bracket AC and DC models 1920. Edited September 14, 2022 by Russ Huber 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Sprague fan motors for 1921.....no more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Sprague fan motors for 1919 and 1920 were green enamel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Lindsey Posted September 14, 2022 Author Share Posted September 14, 2022 Thanks for the info Russ! It's form S1. So 16-18 according to the form year sheet. It has a knurled knob on the bottom of the oscillator instead of a star. I assume that was a replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) The Lundell IC/Sprague DC fan motors sported pizza wings 1892-1916. 1917 was the first introduction of the rounded wing tip Sprague DC models. NO 12' OR 16" AC MODELS AS LATE AS 16. IN 1917 ONLY, THE ENTIRE SPRAGUE DC DESK FAN MOTOR WAS PAINTED BLACK. The 17 guard was now constructed of steel. GREEN ENAMEL 1919-20 ONLY. 9" Sprague models hit the market in 16, it appears. Edited September 14, 2022 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Lindsey Posted September 19, 2022 Author Share Posted September 19, 2022 Surprise Surprise..... steel blade painted gold. Also appears the cage was painted green which I assume covered up mismatch metals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Cherry Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 I came across an 9 “ R&M stick fan with an open cast brushed motor.. The back ring of the cage was steel while the rest was all brass.. I thought that was very odd.. so Sprague was not the only one.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 9 hours ago, David A Cherry said: I came across an 9 “ R&M stick fan with an open cast brushed motor.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 WW1 material needs would explain Anthony's example. The R&M home fan with a gloss black steel rear guard stock painted black with brass wires I think would look cool. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Cherry Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 14 hours ago, Russ Huber said: WW1 material needs would explain Anthony's example. The R&M home fan with a gloss black steel rear guard stock painted black with brass wires I think would look cool. 🙂 I never realized that it was a two Tone fan.. I regret selling it but ..now I really regret selling it.. probably will never see another.. An interesting little story ..that fan was with another fan at an antique mall, They were asking $45 for the R&M and $65 for the little rusty zero.. This is not the first time I’ve seen a cheap fan selling for more than an expensive rare one.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, David A Cherry said: An interesting little story ..that fan was with another fan at an antique mall, they were asking $45 for the R&M and $65 for the little rusty zero. How far back did you make that purchase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 BTW...FWIW.......the little 8"/9" models of that time period were frequently referred to as "Home fans". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Rockwell Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Until 1910, when they first offered a 12-inch 6-wing slow-speed fan, WESTINGHOUSE called their 8-inch version the Residence Fan..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 58 minutes ago, Steve Rockwell said: Until 1910, when they first offered a 12-inch 6-wing slow-speed fan, WESTINGHOUSE called their 8-inch version the Residence Fan..... res·i·dence noun a person's home; the place where someone lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Dunaway Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 18 hours ago, David A Cherry said: I never realized that it was a two Tone fan.. I regret selling it but ..now I really regret selling it.. probably will never see another.. An interesting little story ..that fan was with another fan at an antique mall, They were asking $45 for the R&M and $65 for the little rusty zero.. This is not the first time I’ve seen a cheap fan selling for more than an expensive rare one.. I remember a time when Dick Boswell showed up at one of the Ozark regional meets within the past 12 years, having stopped at an antique store in Iowa on the way down. They had two fans up on a shelf priced at I believe $25.00 each. One was a Bersted Zero brand, the other, an Emerson. He decided on the Emerson and I believe procured a discount at check-out. He opened the trunk of the car & pulled the fan out to show us... PI 241 dirty but complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 The reason I questioned David how far back he made his purchase is antique dealer/vendor awareness. Back in the early part of the turn of this century I could go to an antique store/auction and pick up an average brass fan for as low as $30.00. Quoth the Raven “Nevermore.” Years ago, I went into a small antique shop in a one-horse town. As I walked in to the very small shop I immediately spotted an early complete GE cake on a shelf. On the floor beside it was a Deco styled Stancor pedestal fan. The dealer had $75.00 on the cake, and $160.00 on the Stancor pedestal fan. He wouldn't bend on the price for the pedestal fan as he was adamant it was worth it based on the Art Deco styling. he did however offer to come down on the GE cake $25.00. Quoth the Raven “Nevermore.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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