German Toy Motors?

[Louis Luu]

Picked these up from Rick...a real nice person to talk to.  I believe these to be German.  They are heavy for being a toy motor.  The lightest one is around 3.5 pounds and the heaviest one is around 7 pounds.  These will give me an opportunity to learn how to do windings due to my fat finger syndrome.

Here is the lightest one.

This one is about 5 pounds.

This one is about seven pounds.

 

[Louis Luu]

If anyone wants that wooden propeller...holler.  I will be removing it and putting on fan blade instead.

 

[Jay Carter]

Nice finds and acquisitions! I don’t know their origin, but may I hazard a guess ?

They could be pre-WW2 German, but Germans had a tendency to proudly label, number, and trademark their motors. Could even be Polish, Czech, or obscure USA “student motors”. That crude but industrial/functional styling is oft used as instructional motors in early to mid 20th century classrooms ; or electrical correspondence schools. When I find one like that , I first test run on low volt DC and simply see if it runs. If not , I try and VOM meter the connections and LIGHTLY clean contacts. I prefer to retain much of the original build parts, windings,  and colors as practicable (because that’s the way someone originally built it). Series wound, shunt wound, compound wound can get fascinating.

When I was a kid , brand’s like REMCO and Aristocraft etc from the 1940’s to 1970’s had kits where kids, students, and vocational classes could construct, wind, and run small motors. Welch Scientific and Cenco had a few nicer models. Gilbert even had an early 1900’s kit version of their battery DC motors that could be assembled and of course they showed putting a fan blade on it (the fan could be used to push air and “fly” a tethered paper airplane for impressive effects). Nowadays almost all build-it-yourself educational kits are from PRC China . Once they run, you gotta make it do some kind if work, fan blade shows and feels like its complete.

Comic book ads in the 1950’s had much enticements for kids to power-up and learn electro-motive forces.

[Louis Luu]

3 minutes ago, Jay Carter said:

Nice finds and acquisitions! I don’t know their origin, but may I hazard a guess ?

They could be pre-WW2 German, but Germans had a tendency to proudly label, number, and trademark their motors. Could even be Polish, Czech, or obscure USA “student motors”. That crude but industrial/functional styling is oft used as instructional motors in early to mid 20th century classrooms ; or electrical correspondence schools. When I find one like that , I first test run on low volt DC and simply see if it runs. If not , I try and VOM meter the connections and LIGHTLY clean contacts. I prefer to retain much of the original build parts, windings,  and colors as practicable (because that’s the way someone originally built it). Series wound, shunt wound, compound wound can get fascinating.

When I was a kid , brand’s like REMCO and Aristocraft etc from the 1940’s to 1970’s had kits where kids, students, and vocational classes could construct, wind, and run small motors. Welch Scientific and Cenco had a few nicer models. Gilbert even had an early 1900’s kit version of their battery DC motors that could be assembled and of course they showed putting a fan blade on it (the fan could be used to push air and “fly” a tethered paper airplane for impressive effects). Nowadays almost all build-it-yourself educational kits are from PRC China . Once they run, you gotta make it do some kind if work, fan blade shows and feels like its complete.

Comic book ads in the 1950’s had much enticements for kids to power-up and learn electro-motive forces.

Information much appreciated.

 

[Jay Carter]

My preference would be to keep that unusual little wooden propellor. I find it amusing that someone used that almost a century ago and its still attached.

And in keeping with a toy or educational motor with a fan blade , here are 3 original pics from  at 19teens -20’s  brochure titled “Fun With Your Motor” by AC Gilbert.