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I bought this fan on Ebay I 

got it all the way from Peru in 5 days. I was amazed how fast I got it. The seller did an excellent job packing. I think the fan is from the 30's. It needs a cage and struts. The blade is trash. Wings and hub are bent up pretty bad. If any one has these parts please message me. I hooked it up to 220vac and it does run but sounds like it might need a new front bearing. Switch seems to be in good condition. 

   I started taking it apart. Does any one know how to remove the oscillator assembly? Did the English have their own gauge hardware? (like GE ?). The nuts on the motor housing are not standard or metric. Also I'm have a problem taking off the trunnion from the motor housing. Any help would be appreciated.

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20230510_154912.thumb.jpg.f81f0600fcc8ccddb0932e3e5d7c59ef.jpg What size nut is this?

20230510_154926.thumb.jpg.d8c8b71b613bbaeda9b78cf37cf5071d.jpg  How do I go about taking the oscillator assembly apart?

20230510_154751.thumb.jpg.ad571333bca5fd1d5acaf4c27bd69709.jpg Was this decal on there original

 

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Set screw behind the bracket where motor screws into motor.

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Pop off the cap....there is a screw that attaches to the stem.  Once you have everything off....rotate the fan shaft and the worm gear/wheel gear will slowly back out.

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Hardware on English fans is often BA (British Association) or Whitworth. (I've been working on British motorcycles since I was a kid and have all this stuff. Some stuff is cross referenced, for example, There are frequently #6-40 screws on them, which are not common but you can find them if you look hard enough.

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1 hour ago, Louis Luu said:

Set screw behind the bracket where motor screws into motor.

I did remove the set screw but the screw still didn't turn. I'll try some penetrating oil. 

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Vic, were you ab le to pop off the cap to get to the screw attached to the stem, per Louis' advisement above?

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9 hours ago, Dennis Long said:

Vic, were you ab le to pop off the cap to get to the screw attached to the stem, per Louis' advisement above?

Yes, I got it all apart. Thanks 

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So after you got the cap off, how did you get this brass ring out?

 

 

Cap is off.jpg

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1 hour ago, Dennis Long said:

So after you got the cap off, how did you get this brass ring out?

 

 

Cap is off.jpg

You got the back gear out.  That top part is now free.  Just a gentle tap with a rubber hammer and gentle tug...very gentle.  The brass part is a tight fit but should be loose once you start moving it.

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1 hour ago, Louis Luu said:

You got the back gear out.  That top part is now free.  Just a gentle tap with a rubber hammer and gentle tug...very gentle.  The brass part is a tight fit but should be loose once you start moving it.

Louis, I've been using Kroil around the outer edge of that brass ring for months, thinking it might help in case its gummed up. The rubber mallet tapping isn't working, at least not yet. Think I'll try a little super glue to get it out like you had me do with the oscillator knob cap. I suspect the old grease is solidified and won't budge. The grease in the oscillator arm assembly was all dried out and hard when I finally got it out. 

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1 hour ago, Dennis Long said:

Louis, I've been using Kroil around the outer edge of that brass ring for months, thinking it might help in case its gummed up. The rubber mallet tapping isn't working, at least not yet. Think I'll try a little super glue to get it out like you had me do with the oscillator knob cap. I suspect the old grease is solidified and won't budge. The grease in the oscillator arm assembly was all dried out and hard when I finally got it out. 

You can remove the back assembly....four screws holding the back to the motor.  I would soak the whole back assembly to soften the grease.

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Here's what I rigged up to remove the brass insert. By tightening the nut the sleeve comes right out.

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OMG, OMG, OMG!!!  Vic, you're brilliant!!  I don't know how I missed it, but I didn't see your response above to my ask until today!  I've been working off and on on getting that brass ring out since last November. I've tried a rubber hammer, Kroil, heat, superglue between brass ring and thick sheet metal, and lacquer thinner and acetone to clean out the old grease. I was about to give up and leave the ring in the body until I saw your solution. I doubt I would have thought to do what you did without your post (although I do have gear pullers and it's a similar principle).

Anyway, thank you so much for responding. Sorry I didn't see it until today (2+ months later). I hope you're progressing well (or done) restoring your Verity. I bet we bought our Verity's from the same guy, as I got mine from Peru too.

Your speed decal looks like mine, so they must be original. Were you able to figure out a replacement?

Anyway, you certainly made my day!!!  Thanks again!!!

Oscillator Shaft Out and Tool Used to Extract.jpg

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Thanks for posting.I have thought if I ever had a Verity Orbit I would need no more.Keep posting progress.It is very interesting.

What was the superglue trick?

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Paul, Louis Luu told me to superglue a popsicle stick to the oscillator knob cap so I could pull the cap off the oscillator knob. Once off, I was able to get to the screw under the cap, remove it, and slide off the metal retainer plate. With that retaining plate removed, I was able to get to the brass ring. As an aside, the popsicle stick broke on me, so I resorted to a wider piece of sheet metal (~14/16 gauge), which worked.

Anyway, so I tried the same thing on the brass ring, i.e. supergluing 2 metal plates to the brass ring, one on each side of the stem. However, the brass ring was too stuck and the superglue gave way. Tried this twice - failed on each try.

Getting everything apart on this fan turned out to be a group effort. Thanks to Louis and Vic, it's now all apart!

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12 minutes ago, Dennis Long said:

Paul, Louis Luu told me to superglue a popsicle stick to the oscillator knob cap so I could pull the cap off the oscillator knob. Once off, I was able to get to the screw under the cap, remove it, and slide off the metal retainer plate. With that retaining plate removed, I was able to get to the brass ring. As an aside, the popsicle stick broke on me, so I resorted to a wider piece of sheet metal (~14/16 gauge), which worked.

Anyway, so I tried the same thing on the brass ring, i.e. supergluing 2 metal plates to the brass ring, one on each side of the stem. However, the brass ring was too stuck and the superglue gave way. Tried this twice - failed on each try.

Getting everything apart on this fan turned out to be a group effort. Thanks to Louis and Vic, it's now all apart!

Glad you were able to remove the parts. This fan was a challenge but you must be patient. If you have any other questions, I would be happy to reply. 

The only thing left for me to do is making a decal for the switch numbers. 

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