Any advice on how to remove the bell part from a GE bell oscillator from 1928

[Louis Luu]

Yes agree on the thread.  The knob attachment is not an issue.  I can draw around it.  I would like to find one with the knob removed to see how it is put together....my thinking is that knob part should also be drawn up so replacement is much easier. 

Lets hold off on sending....I would like others to chime in if they have these particular fans.

[Louis Luu]

Would this be one of the bell oscillator that can be used in the drawing?

[Anthony Lindsey]

Looks correct. 

 

I have this if you want to dissect it.

[Louis Luu]

34 minutes ago, Anthony Lindsey said:

Looks correct. 

 

I have this if you want to dissect it.

Yes please.  PM me price and shipping.

[Anthony Lindsey]

free

[Louis Luu]

30 minutes ago, Anthony Lindsey said:

free

Thank you.  My address is in the AFCA phone directory.

Edited September 16, 2023 by Louis Luu

[Louis Luu]

Or this one....looks to be the same gearbox that is fully detachable from the back motor housing?

[Louis Luu]

[Anthony Lindsey]

That's a Vortalex,   gearbox looks the same but it is 10 years or more past the form # series. 

 

[Louis Luu]

I made an offer on this 16 inch.  I'm betting the 12 inch uses the same gearbox?

[Louis Luu]

Just got this one for 130 free shipping.  Model: GE Fan 75425  This should do for the drawing.

 

[Louis Luu]

Yeah....another damage fan but it will serve its purpose.  On a positive note, at least I won't have to remove the bell....it is already off.  Next time if you have a part that is hard to remove....just sent it through the mailing system and it magically falls apart.

Edited September 25, 2023 by Louis Luu

[John Landstrom]

Offer still stands Louis.  
 

BTW…..what’s the info on the base tag?  (If it had one)   AK1 ?

[Louis Luu]

12 hours ago, John Landstrom said:

Offer still stands Louis.  
 

BTW…..what’s the info on the base tag?  (If it had one)   AK1 ?

I'll look this weekend.  The part I have should be fine.  If I need help, I will definitely holler....not very familiar with these fans.

Edited September 25, 2023 by Louis Luu

[Terry Plata]

If the original pot metal bell breaks, can a facsimile be turned in aluminum? Or brass?

[Louis Luu]

8 minutes ago, Terry Plata said:

If the original pot metal bell breaks, can a facsimile be turned in aluminum? Or brass?

If you are asking what metal are offered for prints.....here is just a few: aluminum, steel, bronze, brass, titanium.....and many more.  I'm aiming for a brass bell go go with a brass gear box.  I need to find a 12 inch six blade if possible for myself.  I bought the 16 inch for the parts....mainly the box so I can draw it up.

[Louis Luu]

I've gotten worst....this is still doable.  I will get some crazy glue do some measurements..  Pot metal is not terribly bad; however, combine with thin wall is very bad.  

 

[John Landstrom]

Can’t quite make the form on the tag.   Is that AF2?

Thought you mentioned it was a 16” model.   I’d be interested in the blade and cage if you have no set plans for them.

Also, I offered up sending you my fan, but I’d be happy to remove and disassemble the rear gearbox.  Is definitely in better shape, albeit not perfect.  One of the threaded holes for the top cover screws is damaged.  You’d have a couple of examples to go by.  Mine is a 1930 AK1.   Pretty sure the AF is an earlier model.  
 

oh, hope you found the set screw above the large plug that is on the side of the gearbox.   Be sure to take that out before trying to remove that item. (Bering alignment screw). It’s there to prevent it from coming loose.  The set screw is in the hole for the cover on that side (sits below the screw)

You mentioned they could be made of brass.  Wow!  I’d love a set in brass !    (Gearbox and trumpet)

VERY CURIOUS what you find dissecting the oscillator knob (brass) that is on top of the shaft going through the cover.  Haven’t heard of anyone being able to disassemble that.  Maybe pressed in place? 

Edited October 1, 2023 by John Landstrom

[Louis Luu]

5 minutes ago, John Landstrom said:

Can’t quite make the form on the tag.   Is that AF2?

Thought you mentioned it was a 16” model.   I’d be interested in the blade and cage if you have no set plans for them.

Also, I offered up sending you my fan, but I’d be happy to remove and disassemble the rear gearbox.  Is definitely in better shape, albeit no perfect.  You’d have a couple of examples to go by.  Mine is a 1930 AK1.   Pretty AIRE the AF is an earlier model.  
 

oh, hope you found the set screw above the large plug that is on the side of the gearbox.   Be sure to take that out before trying to remove that item. (Bering alignment). It’s there to prevent it from coming loose.  The set screw is in the hole for the cover on that side (sits below the screw)

You mentioned they could be made of brass.  Wow!  I’d love a set in brass !    (Gearbox and trumpet)

VERY CURIOUS what you find dissecting the oscillator knob (brass) that is on top of the shaft going through the cover.  Haven’t heard of anyone being able to disassemble that.  Maybe pressed in place? 

You can have whatever parts you want.  The parts are soaking in degreaser....I could not see a darn thing....all covered by heavy solidified grease.  So far here is my assessment.  The pot metal combine with thin wall is what lead to drastic failure in these box.  I will fix it.  The drawing is straightforward.  As for the taps, I will update them along with the holder for the oiler....too many unnecessary parts holding it to the back.  I supposed this was done due to the thickness of the material.  I will fix the thickness as well for the rear portion.

 

The alignment screw came off without me ever touching the set screw?  I'll find out once I clean it up and glue it back together.  As long as I got the dimensions along with the shape, I will be able to recreate the piece with relative ease.  I will also be utilizing the patent drawing provided by Jared DelOrfano.

Edited October 1, 2023 by Louis Luu

[John Landstrom]

Messaging you.  

[Louis Luu]

Crazy glue ordered.  Hard to believe, but it is much cheaper for me to order stuff and have it delivered rather than me going out to buy.  Very sad but super convenient.  I'll be cleaning down the parts and let it airdry tonight.  Will glue the pieces together and start the measurements.

[Louis Luu]

Getting rid of the grease soaked in pot metal.  I added water and dawn and nuked on high for 15 minutes.  This is how I do it.  The fumes won't kill you but your other significant might.  Wait till she is asleep.

 

Edited October 1, 2023 by Louis Luu

[Jared DelOrfano]

11 hours ago, Louis Luu said:

I will also be utilizing the patent drawing provided by Jared DelOrfano.

FYI, that diagram is from the 1930 catalogue. Here’s a link! 1930 Dealer’s Catalogue

[Jared DelOrfano]

There’s actually quite a few catalogues on that website with some good stuff. 1911:

[James Landry]

22 hours ago, Louis Luu said:

Getting rid of the grease soaked in pot metal.  I added water and dawn and nuked on high for 15 minutes.  This is how I do it.  The fumes won't kill you but your other significant might.  Wait till she is asleep.

 

Mine would immediately clear out of the house, complete with the kids and dog, for the night whenever I baked capacitors in the oven. 🤣 She once asked me if capacitors could "explode". I honestly answered that YES they could explode IF they were installed backwards. All she heard was that "they could explode", and that was that! And no. She was not pleased at all with me baking items in her oven. Not at all. 😂