Pedro Lima Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Hello! This is my first post, thank you for your attention. I bought this weekend, for 25€, a WT22 AEG fan, allegedly by Peter Behrens (which I doubt - shouldn't the second letter on the model be "B"?). In a very decent shape, after some electrical work and oil it eventually worked. Unfortunately, no grid. So, my question is, any tips for getting one or having one made? Thank you for your attention. Meanwhile, I'll post right after this one my other "baby", a much rarer one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Whitfield Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 You might contact Bill Dunlap to see if he is able to reproduce it. I am not sure, but he has made other cages, (grids) for members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Lima Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 Thank you, Jeff, I will try your suggestion. Best regards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Pierson Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Blade looks wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kovar Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 On 8/29/2023 at 3:14 PM, Jeff Whitfield said: ...cages... ...(grids)... Guards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve H Jordan Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Great looking fan - I hope you can get a cage/guard for it. I am interested to see your fans number is WT22 - I just found an AEG which is a GU22 I wish I could find a catalogue from the time ... I'd like to understand the numbers ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Pierson Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 WOW!!! That is an exceptional fan. I have never seen that model before and I love it. They made quite a few models w interesting geometric design elements. The one that comes to mind has a cube at the neck. Have only seen photos from the period it was produced. congrats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1927. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Carmody Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) On 10/6/2023 at 11:00 PM, Jim Kovar said: Guards. cage,grid, You forgot grill. Edited October 15, 2023 by Paul Carmody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Lima Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 Sorry that only now I saw several comments. I'll try to answer to the best of my knowledge: Steve (AEG fan codes): The first letter: G will be for Gleichstrom (DC) and W will be for Wechselstrom (AC); G is also used for three-phse AC The second letter: it's possible (a long shot) that it stands for the designer - "B" for Behrens (the most sought after), "T" for Thorn; they both designed for AEG and associate companies; "U" I have no information, unfortunatelly. The first number - the higher, the bigger is the fan The second number - possible variations I hope this helps 🙂 Paul - I have a similar one, only bigger, fully original, and the blades check; I'd say they are original but it's difficult to know- they are +100 years old, so they are loaded with stories... Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P Dempsey Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 The only German Fan I ever owned, quite sturdy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf Augenstein Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 This is Pedro’s Version of the WT22. The rounded base is not strictly considered as the classic Peter Behrens fan, although the cage and motor housing have still elements from the classic version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf Augenstein Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 This one is also marked WT22, but has the “classic” Behrens base and motor housing but is missing the typical center piece for the cage as it was re-tagged by Dr. Th. Horn https://www.instagram.com/p/CsXnt5nO8Tj/?igshid=ZWQ3ODFjY2VlOQ== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf Augenstein Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Before WW1 fans had just WB or GB and then 0 for 7”, 1 for 10”, 2 for 12” and 3 for 16” W= AC G= DC no idea what the “B” was for - could be for “Behrens” - or not … I doubt it though. After WW1: first letter like above W or G second letter : G = Gabel (fork or trunnion) T = Tisch (table) U= Universal B= ? (Only one version in catalogue “WB23) Third letter: O= oscillating In 1919 the 11 was for 10”, 22 for 12”, 23 for 14”, and 24 for 16” Even into the mid 1920s a GB0 and WB0 model were re-introduced - identical to pre-war but with ever updated cages and blade shapes. so for example : GUO 23 was a DC 14” Universalmotor Oscillator and a WG 22 was an AC 12” Trunnion fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kilnapp Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Fascinating information and beautiful fan!! Welcome to the AFCA, Pedro. That’s a beautiful fan, Ralf!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Michael Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Ralf Augenstein said: Before WW1 fans had just WB or GB and then 0 for 7”, 1 for 10”, 2 for 12” and 3 for 16” W= AC G= DC no idea what the “B” was for - could be for “Behrens” - or not … I doubt it though. After WW1: first letter like above W or G second letter : G = Gabel (fork or trunnion) T = Tisch (table) U= Universal B= ? (Only one version in catalogue “WB23) Third letter: O= oscillating In 1919 the 11 was for 10”, 22 for 12”, 23 for 14”, and 24 for 16” Even into the mid 1920s a GB0 and WB0 model were re-introduced - identical to pre-war but with ever updated cages and blade shapes. so for example : GUO 23 was a DC 14” Universalmotor Oscillator and a WG 22 was an AC 12” Trunnion fan Thank you @Ralf Augenstein ! Well, I was on track! Saved in my notes from 13 December: "AEG Fans - Notes G = = Direct Current W = = Alternating Current Hence an earlier post referring to W as watts is (obviously) incorrect. * 6000W = 6000/60 or 100 alternations per second, hence 50 hertz. (~50) T = Tabelle (Table) [presumed] U = universell (Universal, wall mount to desktop/table use] 00= 8” 11 = 10” (flügel 250mm) [known example] 22= 12” (flügel 300mm) [known example] 33 =16” (flügel 400mm) Hence the WT22 is 12” AC Table Fan, and the GU22 is a 12” DC Wall-Mount Fan" I have been researching these lately and sent you massages regarding serial numbers/tag and model photos. I have volunteered to write the AEG 'Fan Wiki' for AFCA, and am trying to nail down meaning of the serial numbers... So far I have a loose idea only. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve H Jordan Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 That’s all really interesting, thanks for the info re. numbering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Lima Posted February 6 Author Share Posted February 6 Hello all! 3 months after, here is the WT22 with the cage/grill. A wonderful, precision work that only costed me 70€. It was made without any protection on the brasileiro that will now age till match the blades colour. Hopefully... made in Portugal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Lima Posted February 6 Author Share Posted February 6 Sorry, damn corrector - not "brasileiro" but "brass" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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