Marc Sova Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Here’s my haul from last weekend in Ohio. Just figured I’d post my video rather than a bunch of pictures. Gives a better more through look at each one. Fans: Marelli (model?), R&M Peacock, Colonial front oscillator, Menemonee Snowflake, Emerson 21648, jandus C Frame, Jandus C Frame (ge?) 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butler Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Amazing seeing that much in one place. Makes me wonder how long they were there and if anyone bought some before you got there. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristan Crider Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 lol.. Wow.. That's amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kovar Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Steve Butler said: ...wonder... ...if anyone bought some before you got there. I was first and got the crème de la crème... Left the rest for Marc. Great score, Marc! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Sova Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Steve Butler said: Amazing seeing that much in one place. Makes me wonder how long they were there and if anyone bought some before you got there. 🤔 Yeah I wonder too. I bet not long…and honestly, i almost bet there weren’t others. i mean what fan would have to be there for sale to make a buyer leave behind two c frames????a third more perfect c frame maybe? Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Trier Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Great haul Marc …. !! That will keep the rest of us on the road and in the shops. The C frame with the AB motor is one I’ve never seen before. More rare than a ball motor? Don’t know. I found a wire mount with that AB motor at a flee market and fell in love with the motor. The more you look at it the cooler it gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) In 1911 the General Electric Co. announced in their fan motor bulletin they were discontinuing the centrifugal switch mechanism in their desk fan motor line (BMY). Jandus was outsourcing this GE centrifugal start fan motor starting in 09 primarily for their AC gyro. Being GE discontinued the centrifugal mechanism for a phase shift winding, AB/jandus now had to either manufacture, or outsource another AC centrifugal start motor primarily for the AC gyros. They did use this motor on the AC desk fans as well. What you see here was the result. What we don't know is if AB/jandus actually manufactured the motors in factory or outsourced them from another unknown source as they did from GE. I myself lean more to the motors being outsourced. The images below were all separately posted on the old website in past. Edited January 27 by Russ Huber 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 This motor potentially was on the market spanning anywhere between 1911-12 and 1922. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 5 minutes ago, Russ Huber said: This motor potentially was on the market spanning anywhere between 1911-12 and 1922. Starting in 1920, the motor tag would state National Screw & Tack. AB/Jandus was absorbed by them in 20. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Sova Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 14 hours ago, Steve Butler said: Amazing seeing that much in one place. Makes me wonder how long they were there and if anyone bought some before you got there. 🤔 Yeah I wonder too. I bet not long…and honestly, i almost bet there weren’t others. i mean what fan would have to be there for sale to make a buyer leave behind two c frames????a third more perfect c frame maybe? Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Sova Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 13 minutes ago, Russ Huber said: Starting in 1920, the motor tag would state National Screw & Tack. AB/Jandus was absorbed by them in 20. No the tag doesn’t say that. I’ll maybe post a pic of the tags later. Great info. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Sova Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 So I delicately cut the welds that were on the frame and the bolt (not sure if the bigger hex head hood was factory or not?). Indeed the small(?) gear is missing. So…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) On 1/27/2024 at 11:00 AM, Marc Sova said: So I delicately cut the welds that were on the frame and the bolt (not sure if the bigger hex head hood was factory or not?). Indeed the small(?) gear is missing. So…. The low-profile guy who made the video.🙂 Edited January 29 by Russ Huber 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Does anyone go the distance to reproduce these gears anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Sova Posted January 29 Author Share Posted January 29 (edited) 12 hours ago, Russ Huber said: Does anyone go the distance to reproduce these gears anymore? Louis Luu sounded like he would be up to the task. But he would need an original to measure and copy from, etc. Understandably, he’s not willing to disassemble his c frame and I am not willing to disassemble the other one that I have that has it in tact. It’s the earlier(?) Jandus motor so I’m assuming it would have the same gear. Edited January 29 by Marc Sova Typos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Luu Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Same gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Whitfield Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 1/28/2024 at 10:58 PM, Russ Huber said: Does anyone go the distance to reproduce these gears anymore? Dan Nguyen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Kowalski Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Hi Marc Your Marelli is almost certainly the "AUSTRO" model. If you can locate the serial number, the first two digits refer to the year of production. Model name: from the Italian “austro” = hot wind that blows from the south Years: ~1910-1935 Type: Inclinable head Version: at least 2 versions identified (see below) Blades: 25 cm, blades with round ended blades and asymmetrical for later versions Cage: 9-spoke early style cage and 8-spoke cage for later versions Motor: ball head/brushed Electric current: DC (110, 130, 155, or 240V); AC (110, 130, 165 or 240V) & Universal Weight: 3.3 kg Description: All carried oilers placed above the armature shaft. All models had a ball head/brushed head with diamond shaped ventilation holes (some licensed models had oval holes). Models came in DC, AC as well as a Universal motor (AC/DC). Lever ON/OFF speed control (2 speeds). Brass/NPB oilers above the armature shaft. Serial numbers (typically 7 numbers) painted in gold to base. Pinstriping to base and head. All models carried tab feet and lever ON/OFF speed controls (2 speeds). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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