Steve Rockwell Posted March 3, 2022 Posted March 3, 2022 Offered by McLeod Ward & Co. Can anybody say more about it? Try hooking it up to this, eh? 1 Quote
Russ Huber Posted March 3, 2022 Posted March 3, 2022 I have seen that CF before. The blade irons look like Diehl. Quote
Steve Rockwell Posted March 4, 2022 Author Posted March 4, 2022 I appreciate the hint, will look a little deeper... There was a McLeod out of Washington District of Columbia showing Diehl fans (electric) at that time, but it's a completely individual, no kinship that I can find... McLeod Ward didn't seem to push fans much... The lamp in particular was their forté... By the time the following was published (1909), McLeod had died, and the business continued with Ward only... Whatever a VanHouten fan is, it hasn't turned up easily, and I'll stick to pursuing the image at the top... Where are you Evan Atkinson? Quote
Evan Atkinson Posted March 5, 2022 Posted March 5, 2022 I'm right here. 🙂. I haven't seen that exact image before, but yes, the blade brackets are Diehl. That is a fancier fan (if that's even possible) than what I've first seen from Diehl in their old ads. Looks dazzlingly bejeweled! The Diehl Suspended Fan I speak of dates 1889 and sports two blades. This fan looks more like a traditional belt-drive model with two wood blades, but shoo-fly paddles are still being used and I don't remember seeing a fan with those from Diehl. Quote
Robert Todd Posted March 6, 2022 Posted March 6, 2022 Interesting information about McLeod Ward & Co. I never knew they had anything to do with fans. I have a 1905 McLeod Ward Kinsman desk lamp that, other than rewiring, is in excellent original condition. It has a solid brass shade that slides over a mesh screen to adjust the amount and direction of lighting. I see Walter Kinsman listed on the above patent as the inventor of the lamp listed in that patent. Thanks for the information. Quote
Russ Huber Posted March 6, 2022 Posted March 6, 2022 On 3/5/2022 at 12:13 AM, Evan Atkinson said: I'm right here. 🙂. I haven't seen that exact image before, but yes, the blade brackets are Diehl. Bill Hochhausen was an engineer for the Excelsior Electric Co. Check out the blade irons on his CF patent. 🙂 1498408674796370589-00512821 (storage.googleapis.com) Quote
Steve Rockwell Posted March 7, 2022 Author Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) More of 'em... http://www.afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=35713 By the way, Chuck Abernathy 6th Post----------------- Veering off-topic now... I've now seen three different desk fan blade arrangements for Excelsior... sort of suggests they picked up blades wherever they best could... and... also, I read that Thomson-Houston bought Excelsior 1890, have not confirmed that tidbit but will... I'm sure you guessed by now that I'd have loved to tie the ornate McLeod Ward to Kulp & Crescent, for general principles, as well as a reason to explain the crazy paddles..... PostScript: Just found it Russ http://www.afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=26696 Edited March 7, 2022 by Steve Rockwell Quote
Russ Huber Posted March 7, 2022 Posted March 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Steve Rockwell said: More of 'em... http://www.afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=35713 By the way, Chuck Abernathy 6th Post----------------- Holtzer-Cabot 94 CF - Pre-1950 (Antique) - Antique Fan Collectors Association - AFCA Forums The last time I saw Chuck post was for Carlton Ward's birthday on 1/30/22, so he is still out there. I don't think Chuck has posted much since around the time Stefan Osdene stopped posting. Chuck is a good guy. I met him for the first at Madison FF. We discussed briefly 19th century Menominee fan motor CCW blade rotation. Quote
Russ Huber Posted March 7, 2022 Posted March 7, 2022 Pssssssssssst........there are more fan motors than you can shake a stick at that you, and that means...YOU.... have never laid eyes on in the 19th. Quote
Evan Atkinson Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 On 3/6/2022 at 9:06 AM, Russ Huber said: Bill Hochhausen was an engineer for the Excelsior Electric Co. Check out the blade irons on his CF patent. 🙂 1498408674796370589-00512821 (storage.googleapis.com) I've seen this ceiling fan motor in the patent drawings, but never a finished model with shell as advertised. Who knows what it looked like! Quote
Evan Atkinson Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 On 3/6/2022 at 7:30 PM, Steve Rockwell said: More of 'em... http://www.afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=35713 By the way, Chuck Abernathy 6th Post----------------- Veering off-topic now... I've now seen three different desk fan blade arrangements for Excelsior... sort of suggests they picked up blades wherever they best could... and... also, I read that Thomson-Houston bought Excelsior 1890, have not confirmed that tidbit but will... I'm sure you guessed by now that I'd have loved to tie the ornate McLeod Ward to Kulp & Crescent, for general principles, as well as a reason to explain the crazy paddles..... PostScript: Just found it Russ http://www.afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=26696 Pretty fantastic, thanks for this amazing image Steve! Falls into the category of perhaps-forever-lost fan motors we will only gaze upon through the old advertisements. Similar to the Backus fans, this one looks as though the lower half of the ball would turn, carrying the blades with them. Those brackets look familiar...Backus-like almost. Probably used by more than them. Quote
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