Paul Michael Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Curt Davis said: Here are some pics of an early C-Frame (ca. 1895) with cast brass "Edison Mfg. Co." tag and 6-pole motor. Later C-frames had 12-pole motors and have a stamped brass tag (usually with a serial number) and even later the Thomas A Edison signature was added also. Thank you Curt. Yes, I had contemplated bidding on that one, I think it was one of the real GEMS in your father's collection. The one you show here is the FIRST version of the Edison C-frame, I have seen very few examples of these. I have broken the production down into FOUR distinct 'models'. I am writing an article for the AFCA Magazine about this. Edited September 13, 2023 by Paul Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Davis Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 30 minutes ago, Paul Michael said: Thank you Curt. Yes, I had contemplated bidding on that one, I think it was one of the real GEMS in your father's collection. The one you show here is the FIRST version of the Edison C-frame, I have seen very few examples of these. I have broken the production down into FOUR distinct 'models'. I am writing an article for the AFCA Magazine about this. Paul: Fantastic. Looking forward to seeing the article. What issue will it appear in? It will be a great companion to the piece the Rene did on Edison iron clads that I posted above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Michael Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Curt Davis said: Paul: Fantastic. Looking forward to seeing the article. What issue will it appear in? It will be a great companion to the piece the Rene did on Edison iron clads that I posted above. Can't say how soon I'll get it done. . . Am still awaiting some documentation. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Marks Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 On 10/5/2022 at 6:14 AM, Dan Nguyen said: This fan is now in my collection. If anyone has any questions just let me know. It sports a unique label on top, no plate, and appears to be for European export. Odd thing about is that while it sports six blades, it features a 12pole rotor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Michael Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 11 hours ago, Tim Marks said: This fan is now in my collection. If anyone has any questions just let me know. It sports a unique label on top, no plate, and appears to be for European export. Odd thing about is that while it sports six blades, it features a 12pole rotor. Yes, the holes in the feet were on the export models... Also, it seems there were reproduction blades and cages made well before Alan and Bill and Dan.... Such as the ones from Austria. Please post or send me clear close details of the entire cage/blade, if you's like me to compare with what I have/have seen. My understanding is that (some) of the earliest (in the US) 12-pole motors (meaning those non cast tag with NO SERIAL NUMBERS) did have 6-wing blades. Likely, remaining stock from the changeover. It would make sense that the earlier export 12-pole motors also drew from remaining inventory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 13 hours ago, Tim Marks said: Odd thing about is that while it sports six blades, it features a 12pole rotor. Tim, how many commutator segments do you count on your model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Cunningham Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 The six blade fans were sold from 1892-1898. They had cast tags on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Michael Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 20 minutes ago, Steve Cunningham said: The six blade fans were sold from 1892-1898. They had cast tags on top. This is true, they were also 6-POLE.... However, from known examples, clearly some early 12-Pole Edison C-Frame fan motors came with 6-Wing blades too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Lindsey Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 I was at the Ford Edison Estate in Ft. Myers a couple weeks ago. Here are the 2 fans they had on display 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Michael Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Anthony Lindsey said: I was at the Ford Edison Estate in Ft. Myers a couple weeks ago. Here are the 2 fans they had on display Anthony, thank you for illustrating my point. I have lost most of my records... But I remember seeing these in the past. They both have the post-cast pre-serial-number tags. Edited September 17, 2023 by Paul Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Marks Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Additional pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kilnapp Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 What a great thread! Makes me want another one. I posted on acquiring an Edison recently. It took about eight hours to disassemble it and clean all the japanne and working parts. Blade and cage are next. I getting a thirst for acquiring more of these with the different designs seen on this thread. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 18 hours ago, Tim Marks said: Odd thing about is that while it sports six blades, it features a 12pole rotor. There must be something worthwhile regarding the efficiency of the armature/motor as to having that number coils wired to the ? number of commutator segments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Davis Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 7 hours ago, Paul Michael said: This is true, they were also 6-POLE.... However, from known examples, clearly some early 12-Pole Edison C-Frame fan motors came with 6-Wing blades too. And below is an example on Ebay right now of this very thing. 12-pole, 6-wing, and TAE trademark. https://www.ebay.com/itm/266401739291?mkevt=1&mkpid=2&emsid=e90001.m43.l1123&plmtId=700008&mesgId=3015&mkcid=8&ch=osgood&bu=44263084598&trkId=7a0c4298-3de3-4ece-aa19-949bd955f6df&cnvId=700003&recoId=266401739291&recoPos=1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Davis Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 6 hours ago, David Kilnapp said: What a great thread! Makes me want another one. https://www.ebay.com/itm/234961959146?hash=item36b4d2f8ea:g:wdsAAOSwO3dkL0QI I know you know this is available. Just a reminder 😜. First C-frame model with cast brass tag and 6-pole motor. A must have for any Edison collector! 🤪 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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