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Decorative motifs on Edison fan


Dan Nguyen

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20 minutes ago, Curt Davis said:

Here are some pics of an early C-Frame (ca. 1895) with cast brass "Edison Mfg. Co." tag and 6-pole motor.  Later C-frames had 12-pole motors and have a stamped brass tag (usually with a serial number) and even later the Thomas A Edison signature was added also.

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Thank you Curt. Yes, I had contemplated bidding on that one, I think it was one of the real GEMS in your father's collection.

The one you show here is the FIRST version of the Edison C-frame, I have seen very few examples of these. I have broken the production down into FOUR distinct 'models'. I am writing an article for the AFCA Magazine about this.

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30 minutes ago, Paul Michael said:

Thank you Curt. Yes, I had contemplated bidding on that one, I think it was one of the real GEMS in your father's collection.

The one you show here is the FIRST version of the Edison C-frame, I have seen very few examples of these. I have broken the production down into FOUR distinct 'models'. I am writing an article for the AFCA Magazine about this.

Paul:  Fantastic.  Looking forward to seeing the article. What issue will it appear in?  It will be a great companion to the piece the Rene did on Edison iron clads that I posted above. 

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5 minutes ago, Curt Davis said:

Paul:  Fantastic.  Looking forward to seeing the article. What issue will it appear in?  It will be a great companion to the piece the Rene did on Edison iron clads that I posted above. 

Can't say how soon I'll get it done. . . Am still awaiting some documentation. 😉

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On 10/5/2022 at 6:14 AM, Dan Nguyen said:

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This fan is now in my collection. If anyone has any questions just let me know. It sports a unique label on top, no plate, and appears to be for European export. Odd thing about is that while it sports six blades, it features a 12pole rotor. 

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11 hours ago, Tim Marks said:

This fan is now in my collection. If anyone has any questions just let me know. It sports a unique label on top, no plate, and appears to be for European export. Odd thing about is that while it sports six blades, it features a 12pole rotor. 

Yes, the holes in the feet were on the export models...

Also, it seems there were reproduction blades and cages made well before Alan and Bill and Dan.... Such as the ones from Austria. Please post or send me clear close details of the entire cage/blade, if you's like me to compare with what I have/have seen. 

My understanding is that (some) of the earliest (in the US) 12-pole motors (meaning those non cast tag with NO SERIAL NUMBERS) did have 6-wing blades. Likely, remaining stock from the changeover. It would make sense that the earlier export 12-pole motors also drew from remaining inventory.

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13 hours ago, Tim Marks said:

Odd thing about is that while it sports six blades, it features a 12pole rotor. 

Tim, how many commutator segments do you count on your model.

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20 minutes ago, Steve Cunningham said:

The six blade fans were sold from 1892-1898. They had cast tags on top.

This is true, they were also 6-POLE.... However, from known examples, clearly some early 12-Pole Edison C-Frame fan motors came with 6-Wing blades too.

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10 minutes ago, Anthony Lindsey said:

I was at the Ford Edison Estate in Ft. Myers a couple weeks ago.   Here are the 2 fans they had on display 

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Anthony, thank you for illustrating my point. I have lost most of my records... But I remember seeing these in the past. They both have the post-cast pre-serial-number tags.

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What a great thread! Makes me want another one. I posted on acquiring an Edison recently. It took about eight hours to disassemble it and clean all the japanne and working parts. Blade and cage are next. I getting a thirst for acquiring more of these with the different designs seen on this thread.

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18 hours ago, Tim Marks said:

Odd thing about is that while it sports six blades, it features a 12pole rotor. 

There must be something worthwhile regarding the efficiency of the armature/motor as to having that number coils wired to the ? number of commutator segments.  

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7 hours ago, Paul Michael said:

This is true, they were also 6-POLE.... However, from known examples, clearly some early 12-Pole Edison C-Frame fan motors came with 6-Wing blades too.

And below is an example on Ebay right now of this very thing.  12-pole, 6-wing, and TAE trademark.  

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