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An esteemed member directed me to this fan less than a mile from my house.  1923 stationary signal cool spot.  I was pleasantly surprised at how nice this fan is ( I thought it was a dime store fall apart throw away fan) .  Should polish  up nicely20240612_185056.thumb.jpg.89e11afbdfa68db5c7df32a09cc194d3.jpg20240612_192613.thumb.jpg.46dbe22f14dc286778bce002c8cd6da3.jpg

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I have both models... It must have been pricey to build.   All the different metals that went into making it! The oscillator fan has:

Copper, brass, aluminum, steel...

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Nice signal fan Jim it will look amazing when it’s polished up 

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4 hours ago, Jim Roadt said:

An esteemed member directed me to this fan less than a mile from my house.  1923 stationary signal cool spot. 

Introduced to the market 1923 and it appears off the market in 1926. A 5-digit serial probably dates it closer to 26. Whoever this esteemed member is, he/she was simply trying to direct brass & brass aficionados like yourself to appreciate the benefits of polished aluminum on what 19th century finger chopper collectors would consider a fan much lower on the totem pole. 🙂

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Did ANYONE ever find either a stationary or oscillating 9" aluminum Cool Spot with factory black enamel on the steel guard? 

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Did someone paint the guard black, or was there originally traces of factory black enamel on the guard to start?

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Or did the guards come from the factory like this with some kind of coating/flashing over the steel?

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Then there is this oddball. I traded with Kirke West for this Cool Spot. The brass highlights were my doing. It came from Kirke painted black. It appeared to be factory finish. Kirke traded with me confident it was factory. Nothing in electrical trade to support the finish. Check out the FACTORY base switch. I know of no other 9" Cool Spot with that Hart & Hegeman switch.

Another AFCA member owns it now.

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1 hour ago, Russ Huber said:

Then there is this oddball. I traded with Kirke West for this Cool Spot. The brass highlights were my doing. It came from Kirke painted black. It appeared to be factory finish. Kirke traded with me confident it was factory. Nothing in electrical trade to support the finish. Check out the FACTORY base switch. I know of no other 9" Cool Spot with that Hart & Hegeman switch.

Another AFCA member owns it now.

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...Adjustable oscillation on this one? 🤔

(Looking at what looks to be 3 piece oscillator arm).

 

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44 minutes ago, Bejon A. Boranian said:

 

...Adjustable oscillation on this one? 🤔

(Looking at what looks to be 3 piece oscillator arm).

 

It is a Signal Electric engineering brainstorm. That is a spring between the connections of the link. In the event the fan binds against something during the oscillation sweep the link spring will flex to help protect gear shearing. 

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30 minutes ago, Russ Huber said:

It is a Signal Electric engineering brainstorm. That is a spring between the connections of the link. In the event the fan binds against something during the oscillation sweep the link spring will flex to help protect gear shearing. 

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...Neat bit of engineering-!

Shall be added to my growing prototype/ fan ideas.

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...This is the old setup idea to be equipped to select fan builds:

(PIC):

(Module shown is from scrap / torn apart audio equipment.)

This is a Direct drive module shown, but principal idea is

that over torque will cause the oscillation movement to cease

by "slipping" the disc/ main gear via 2 felt washers until obstruction

is removed.

Tension of spring = obstruction/Over torque resistance.

User of the fan could "adjust" resistance via screw under gear...

...(at least that was the idea I was initially going for).

 

 

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polished up well enough that I decided to have blades done properly.   20240702_163057.thumb.jpg.97093ce64c35f954503e01edb2e4b9c6.jpg20240702_163124.thumb.jpg.7cd95affa122c822530402d665570175.jpg

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I wish there was a way to validate who at Signal engineered those little guys for the 23 season. Simple design shaded pole motors. You are very lucky to come across such a nice example as a foundation to restore to it true glory. Still, no one has validated if the guards were originally painted black. So many examples appear to have a copper flashing finish on the guards. Nothing wrong with the gloss black.

Prismatic powders offer some cool gold and copper options. 

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That is a very nice example, Jim. Every one of those I have come across has been an oscillator. I don't know if it is just me, but you don't come across the stationary models very often.

My gut intuition is you sent the blade set to Bill Dunlap for replacement brass wings. Time will tell. 🙂

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Blade completed thanks to Bill

Coolest spot I could find for the Cool Spot20240711_203553.thumb.jpg.86b4ed02c125214c04c46fb91a20e48a.jpg

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Nice. I have the oscillating all aluminum model and the 1924 8" introduction Signal Jr. oscillator to complete your Signal 23-24 introduction models. I'll sell them to you at bargain price of a mere $1,000.00.  And wait, that's not all, you will get a FREE bottle of my special Amsoil 20 SAE synthetic non-detergent compressor oil to keep them running tip top for decades to come.

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The same esteemed member generously gave me this oscillating cool spot to complete my signal collection ( not the complete signal collection just my complete collection)

Let the polishing begin

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The vents reminds me of pizza I'm betting its going to look amazing when its all polished up

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1 hour ago, Michael Bouthiller said:

The vents reminds me of pizza. 

And that reminds me of the best bang for your buck ($9.99) New York Pizza at Papa Murphys. Just ask them for some extra pepperoni and they will plop it on for FREE! Fact Jack. Click the link below. 

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You have one more to go and you have Signal's FIRST Introduction 1923 and 24 models. Yup, the 1924 8" Signal Jr.! Fan Collectors from all over the United States will be coming to Fanpalooza with sunglasses for just a glimpse of your Signal Collection! 🙂

 

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I am not too interested in taking this gear box apart ( I'll work around it).

I would like to get large screw off .  Heat and counterclockwise or is it  a lefty20240729_155043.thumb.jpg.5143954d5849c52864fe2b045ec8c1e3.jpg20240729_155050.thumb.jpg.aa335e66a4ed07aa64b0f892505f8752.jpg20240729_155057.thumb.jpg.85250ab8c8eefd6cbfca1aeaa77bbd9a.jpg

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Be sure to count all the different metals in it! I think it must have been pricey back in the day to build those! I have the oscillator and non oscillator versions!

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1 hour ago, Jim Roadt said:

I am not too interested in taking this gear box apart ( I'll work around it).

I would like to get large screw off .  Heat and counterclockwise or is it  a lefty

Never panic. Use a big, slotted screwdriver. There is one thing we know for fact, the big, slotted brass cover has left or right-hand threads. That narrows it down to 2 directions. 🙂 Don't cheat, everyone here has there How the Human Eye Works | Live ScienceOn you.

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