Mike Morris Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 (edited) Just acquired this fan. I am not finding much information. There were two posts I found with some pictures, one from the late Steven Dempsey and another with pictures from the late Jan Hendriks. Searching by GEC does not yield any results, which seemed strange. Searches by Witton and Freezor yielded the two post referenced above. Hoping to get any information I can, hopefully a date of manufacture. Fan is a DC model either 25V or 32V. Edited July 13 by Mike Morris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Lindsey Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 Lol, I sold the fan to Steven Dempsey. Got it out of UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Morris Posted July 13 Author Share Posted July 13 Quote Lol, I sold the fan to Steven Dempsey. Got it out of UK. I assume you are referring to the pictures posted by Mr. Dempsey. I didn't get this fan from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Lindsey Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Luu Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Dunn Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 Nice original fan Mike. Congrats! There are 3 or 4 versions of these GEC orbitals. Catalogue images have been brought up before. I’ll see if I can dig some up. From memory they date late 20’s /early 30’s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 11 hours ago, Jim Dunn said: Catalogue images have been brought up before. I’ll see if I can dig some up. I remember this fan brought up before. I tried to get it to cough up on the search feature but no luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Dunn Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 (edited) Hey Anthony.Sorry for the late response. Tried a link from the old website but it didn’t download in a format readable for anyone but me ..sorry Edited July 18 by Jim Dunn Link not working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 (edited) The Electrical Journal - Google Books The last image is simply an oscillating model. Edited July 20 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 (edited) 1926. Edited July 20 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Dunaway Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Amazing to see a carrying handle cast into the motor housing !! Never seen that before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 (edited) 1927 model with carry handle. Edited July 18 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Dunn Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) Thanks for digging that up Russ where I failed. These pictures are some variations of my gec orbital fans . I have been trying to determine the timeline on these as there is a crossover in features. There are subtle and obvious differences which I hope you can see. I always thought the heavy badges and solid round struts were on early fans but that theory doesn’t appear to follow in these gec models. There are variations and subtle differences in each example I own. Anthony’s is another version of No 1 which doesn’t have a plug in base connection which I am presuming is pre fan no 1 Time line to me seems to me to be in order of fan 1- fan 3 All fans have the patent numbers of 209530 & 210478 on the motor badges Fan no 1 No patent date marked with a base tag serial no:289387,230v-250 v Plug in power connector in base ( plug & socket) copper flashing( war finish) and pin striping detail 3 speed Carry handle welded to a ring around stator ( low profile) Cable entry through front Lhs motor cover Vented motor housing B B, BC thick centre cage badge, flat struts Single adjustment on orbital oscillating mechanism Option of AC or DC switch in base with options of frequency for AC No adjustable spider on base for wall mounting,just a wing nut Marked Witton England Freezor fan on badge Fan No 2 Pat no 9565 with the red speed numbers if basing on patent dates is the oldest of the two with base patent badge Serial No 303491. 220v DC Brass blade and cage 2 speed Carry handle welded to a ring around stator but with a high profile Cable entry through front Lhs motor cover,vented motor housing Brass,brush inspection ports on top of front motor cover BB,BC Thick centre cage badge, flat struts Single adjustment on orbital oscillating mechanism Adjustable spider on base for wall mounting,and wing nut Marked Witton England Freezor fan on badge Fan 3 Most recent Patent number 98200 of 2 speed versions serial no 7041F 426 220 v DC Steel cage & blade, solid round struts,later gec style flat brass badge As with fan No2 ,2 speed Carry handle not welded but screwed to stator. Cable entry through the stator housing not front cover Brass front brush inspection ports Two orbital adjustments on the oscillating mechanism and a switch lever to disengage oscillation unlike fans 1 &2 who are without this feature As with motor No 2 base spider for wall mounting and wing nut Motor casing completely sealed and made of a heavier cast iron construction than fans 1&2 and different shape,No rear magnet badge on motor housing There are multiple brass oiling ports on yoke and motor unlike Fan 1&2 No marking of witton on motor badge. Edited July 19 by Jim Dunn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Dunn Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Fan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Dunn Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) Fan No 3 Edited July 19 by Jim Dunn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Dunaway Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Great pic's of great fans Jim. They look almost as overbuilt as the Westy tanks. I cannot wrap my head around how that complex oscillating / orbital system works. Have U ever run any of those fans ??? Cheers, Geoff from upper Arkansas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Fisher Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 12 hours ago, Jim Dunn said: Fan No 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Fisher Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Hey Jim................... Those sure are great fans. Thanks for posting the pics. I have never seed a fan with a speed control that would operate the fan on DC or two different cycles. That one is really special. Have you run it on all 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Dunn Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Hi Terry and Geoff. Nice to hear from you. I have run the No 3 recently. It’s the same as Louis’s model he posted. No 2 I ran many years ago if I remember correctly. I have never run No 1.This is the most original of the 3 with regards to wiring,condition etc I haven’t seen another GEC fan with the nickel plated plug,as all other GEC fans I have of the style with the plug suppling feed have bakelite plugs with the magnet symbol embossed in them Model No 3 fan is really chunky unit..heavy castings and the numerous oil ports are something quite different from any other fans I know of and has more changes than the two models I posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Bouthiller Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 On 7/19/2024 at 1:09 AM, Jim Dunn said: Fan 2 Is that the original cord Jim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Morris Posted July 21 Author Share Posted July 21 (edited) Thank You Jim and Russ for digging up and posting all that information and Louis for the video, it was way more than I found. It appears that my fan most closely resembles Jim's fan #1 with the exception of the socket and plug and mine is low voltage DC only. Jim is that another set of brush caps on front of fan motor just above the motor shaft? I assume they are necessary for the AC/ DC capability and multi frequency ability? Thanks again for the information. Edited July 21 by Mike Morris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Dunn Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 G’day Mike. The caps I think you are talking about on the top of the front motor cover are just there to view the brush wear etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 (edited) FWIW...this may be old news to those into this post, but it appears in 24 GEC had the standard oscillating model. In 25 I could have sworn I read the word 'introduced' regarding to the GEC "Gyro" model. It appears the gyro models evolved in design/component changes. I have made a few attempts to cough up a full page image of one. Not luck yet. Edited July 21 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 hour ago, Jim Dunn said: G’day Mike. The caps I think you are talking about on the top of the front motor cover are just there to view the brush wear etc. The "take a peek" caps over the commutator must have been an English thing. The turn of century Stellite/VSM fans had them. The fan image is Terry Fisher's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Lindsey Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Here is the one I had about 4-5 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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