Paul Carmody Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 32 minutes ago, Geoff Dunaway said: Great looking badge. did you restore it or is it new ??? It’s how I received it..I assume it’s original? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Paul Carmody said: I assume it’s original? Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Carmody Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) So what did it come off of? Im not going to put a lot if any effort into it.As I look at it I realize I don’t even like the fan anyway. Edited November 6, 2023 by Paul Carmody The Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 45 minutes ago, Paul Carmody said: So what did it come off of? Reproduction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 46 minutes ago, Paul Carmody said: Im not going to put a lot if any effort into it.As I look at it I realize I don’t even like fan anyway. Can we see the rest of the fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Carmody Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) Whoever made the badge did an excellent job.The gold paint is done factory like precision. It doesn’t look right for the fan though. Edited November 7, 2023 by Paul Carmody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Carmody Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) It’s heavy that’s for sure.I just noticed it’s AC/DC. Edited November 7, 2023 by Paul Carmody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1918-19. That is a nice one. Don't get your undies in a bunch. There were members like Rich Becher that were really talented at repairing fractured die cast pot metal parts. Sometimes you need to back away from a thing like this and come back to it at another time and get your ducks in a row. 🙂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Carmody Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Sound advice Russ! That is a wide swing on the cycles.25 to 60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 12" universal motor Menominee fans started in 15 and evolved and remained on the market until 19. Menominee changed their blade wings (round tip) in 19 and they did something internally with the oscillator gear mesh as a safety feature in the event something would obstruct the fan in oscillation mode. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Carmody Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Since I was kicking up dust the other day I will show a couple of things of interest and I have a question. First look at how ridiculously thin the casting is.It had to hold up some heavy oscillator gears and components ,and a lot of grease.I have not seen so much old and new grease.Not a bad thing.At least it had soft grease. When I unscrewed the cap it all came tumbling down.That’s a neat oscillator rod,adjustable ends like tie rods and ball joints on each end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Carmody Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) So the question is does any one have a photo of oscillator gears.I’m certain it’s missing a nut and washer. Now look at the pattern at the bottom.It’s not caused by the gears.They do not touch bottom and the size does not match.Possibly machining?And the little tin patent tag. Edited December 2, 2023 by Paul Carmody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Carmody Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) It cracked right along the line in the pattern.In the back you can see the difference in the metal texture and color right where it cracked. Arrow one I can see where the washer rode.Was it brass or fiber washer?They May have been in all that grease I scooped out.Too late now if it was.Second arrow I’m glad the felt washer was there ,or I would not have known why the oscillator didn’t engage. A few hours soaking in gasoline and then a tooth brush it cleaned right up.Paint and all.That’s what a family of tinkerers always used as parts washer.We we’re the family with old motorized machines everywhere and making a lot of noise. So next I’m going to boil the pot metal to get all the oil out out of the pores the way I do it every since Mr Huber gave away that tip.I can’t remember what cleaner he used or if it was one of these.I have been using cleaning baking soda and borax to boil it with. Edited December 2, 2023 by Paul Carmody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) Paul, can you please post those patent numbers here? That connecting linkage was implemented in 18. Edited December 2, 2023 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Carmody Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) So here’s the last pic of interest.As I proceed I will move to a stand alone thread. It appears that either the factory corrected a flaw ,or cleaned up rough casting.You can see the file marks and it cracked along the flaw.The arrow shows a small crater that is casted in and the crack along the edge. This thing is built like a tank and then they dropped the ball on the oscillator housing? Edited December 2, 2023 by Paul Carmody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 21 minutes ago, Paul Carmody said: This thing is built like a tank and then the dropped the ball on the oscillator housing? WW1 war material needs. Cheating on the gearbox wasn't personal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Carmody Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 The first line is 6906-1924262 second line is NO.-16?567 There’s corrosion on the 3rd letter.It may be 4 but I’m not sure. On the far right there is two marks facing to the side that is a 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Paul Carmody said: The first line is 6906-1924262 second line is NO.-16?567 There’s corrosion on the 3rd letter.It may be 4 but I’m not sure. On the far right there is two marks facing to the side that is a 16. Thanks. I don't recognize the patents for US patent directory. If you wanted to go to all the trouble, you could glue the gearbox segments together and send them to Cattail foundry and have them cast in aluminum. You would then need a machinist to drill the gear shaft holes and remaining mounting and cover holes. Or repair the gearbox. The porous pot metal will have grease in it pores. You have to soak it in solvent to make the repairs hold firm, if you can. Cattail Foundry: Casting Iron in Gordonville, Pennsylvania – Good's Store Online (goodsstores.com) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kovar Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 20 hours ago, Paul Carmody said: A few hours soaking in gasoline and then a tooth brush it cleaned right up. Put her toothbrush back! She'll never know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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