Russ Huber Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 Dayton used the same motor for their turn of century AC desk and ceiling fan, same with their DC 12" desk fan and "Junior" CF. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Atkinson Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Dayton's earliest AC ceiling fan. None have ever been found that I've heard about, but sure would be nice to see the real thing. The last Dayton motor you posted is deceiving. It looks like the Junior model (same basic shape) but it is something else. The real "Junior" had scrolled cast swirls all over the body. Looked really nice. One of those has been located. I don't know of others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted December 10, 2023 Author Share Posted December 10, 2023 The Dayton DC desk & bracket and "Junior" motors were compared in electrical trade as similar in construction. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Atkinson Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 The Junior was in production 2-3 seasons from what I can tell by the trades. First year was ornamental, next two years are plain body, no swirls, and the general shape of the motor changed from a very smooth teardrop shape, to a teardrop with slight angularities and clear delineations between top, middle, and bottom motor castings. Note the brush holders migrated from the top to the bottom plate by the end of production. The cast-tag motor Dayton (#2243?) you show is not a Junior but a different model with an incorrect hub. Dan Nguyen's Junior (your second picture) is just like the one I have, later production, only gold pinstriping evident as decoration, nothing else ornamental. But, we digress from your original question, the first AC Dayton. It's quite a nice looking fan. It'd be fun to find one. They didn't make it long...two years perhaps. It looks to be fancy. Now, if you want a real digression, we should discuss Dayton's very first ceiling fan from 1892. That's barely shown up in the literature, and if someone out there has one, they sure aren't squawkin' about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Evan Atkinson Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 12 hours ago, Russ Huber said: The first picture is year one production for Junior. See the picture below of Dan Nguyen’s actual motor to compare. That one has the swirl decoration cast into the main body and its overall shape is extremely smooth and rounded, like a teardrop. Re: your second picture, I’ve not seen that second Dayton model before. But the hub looks incorrect. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, Evan Atkinson said: Re: your second picture, I’ve not seen that second Dayton model before. But the hub looks incorrect. Yes, you have seen it before. 🙂 A Couple Cool Ceiling Fans in a Sweatshop - Pre-1950 (Antique) - Antique Fan Collectors Association - AFCA Forums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Atkinson Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 13 hours ago, Russ Huber said: Yes, you have seen it before. 🙂 A Couple Cool Ceiling Fans in a Sweatshop - Pre-1950 (Antique) - Antique Fan Collectors Association - AFCA Forums What exactly are you seeing in that old post that I’m missing? I’m talking about the motor you showed with cast tag #2243. That motor is nowhere on the old post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kovar Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 21 hours ago, Evan Atkinson said: ...overall shape is extremely smooth and rounded, like a teardrop. Teardrop? What came to my mind... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted December 14, 2023 Author Share Posted December 14, 2023 7 hours ago, Evan Atkinson said: What exactly are you seeing in that old post that I’m missing? I’m talking about the motor you showed with cast tag #2243. That motor is nowhere on the old post. Just simply misunderstood your message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Atkinson Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jim Kovar said: Teardrop? What came to my mind... I had the same thought too after I posted the description! 🤣👍🏻. I vote this post be moved to the ceiling fan forum. It is all about Dayton cf’s after all! Moderators? Edited December 14, 2023 by Evan Atkinson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted December 14, 2023 Author Share Posted December 14, 2023 No big deal. I was pointing out before the long running Dayton DC 12"desk fan was compared similar to the motor construction of the Dayton "Junior" ceiling fan in 02 electrical trade. American Electrician - Google Books Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jim Kovar Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Jim Kovar said: Pandora's? Everybody knows it is impossible to get the toothpaste back into the genie bottle. "C'mon, man,... —you know the thing." Edited December 23, 2023 by Jim Kovar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steve Rockwell Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 You'll like the following better still... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steve Cunningham Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 It’s all clear now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steve Rockwell Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Russ, You amalgamated the photos, which is a suitable and logical action. To keep the record straight, another citation/attribution is in order, to reflect the fact that photos I originally had to contribute to your thread were supplemented the other day with the full view shot, the nice motor cap/switch detail, and the same view from the inside out... applies respectively to the first, third, and sixth images from the Post immediately prior to this... It is dated 13 Jul 1900. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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