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Russ Huber

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49 minutes ago, Steve Cunningham said:

Russ, I think you nailed it.

It was driving me nuts. I know I saw that CF before, but it just didn't fit the styling of all the manufacturers I have upstairs in my gray matter. I was stuck between Bates & Dayton. Bates was ruled out after a few scans. I then punched in Dayton fan motors for 1900 and......Bingo. There she was.

You don't have to speculate, That is a 1899-1900 Dayton two winger. 

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15 hours ago, Russ Huber said:

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That is an AC CF. My bet is it started on the same principle as the same season AC desk fan. Westinghouse took Dayton to court for infringement on these models. Westinghouse won and the Dayton desk fan for 1901 was DC only.

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3 hours ago, Russ Huber said:

Westinghouse took Dayton to court for infringement

 

                 As did Thomson-Houston, in 1903...

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1 hour ago, Steve Rockwell said:

 

                 As did Thomson-Houston, in 1903...

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Dayton fan motors were strictly direct current 01-08. They only offered a 12" DC model in their desk fan line 01-08 it appears.

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2 hours ago, Steve Rockwell said:

     June 1908.....  and they say black ink is the most expensive color.....

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Electrical Record 08 did not support them having AC ceiling or portables on the market in the fan motor manufacturer listings. Hard to contest the dated Dayton advertisement. 

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2 hours ago, Steve Rockwell said:

     June 1908.....  and they say black ink is the most expensive color.....

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12 pages down from your posted advertisement. 

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I wonder if the Dayton AC was the introduction of the 8" universal brushed model? Check out the AC desk portables and AC ceiling fan listings. No Dayton. 

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     I wonder whether this is the fan guard peeking out from the edge of the obliterated image.....

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35 minutes ago, Steve Rockwell said:

     I wonder whether this is the fan guard peeking out from the edge of the obliterated image.....

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22 minutes ago, Russ Huber said:

Dayton AC fans were still on the market in 01. 

                        At which point Diehl took their shot.....

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        Those connectors between front and rear rings were bothering me... being on 1908 fans.

     It appears that once Westinghouse applied the brakes on Dayton, and Diehl punctuated the situation in '01--- followed by G.E.'s coup-de-grace, Dayton stayed for a while in the safe lane of DC fan production...

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     The image in question was used repeatedly over a period of years... The missing strut(s) are misleading.

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                               Steve Stephens contributed this image in a fan guard/strut thread:

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                                It's a real pity they gave up on this type of ornate design.....

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They only offered that DC model in 12" spanning what appears 1901-1909.  I wish whoever posted the real deal would be kind enough to post the rest of it, please.

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