Russ Huber Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) 13 hours ago, Russ Huber said: Loren Haroldson's post from past copied and pasted. 1. 1877 Tuerk Hydraulic Power, makers of water motors begins in Chicago 2. Fred Tuerk of Chicago (he's the ceiling fan man) invents a water motor 3. In the 80's there is a Gustavus Tuerk in Chicago and among his inventions a water motor. I don't know if he is related to Fred, but it's certainly possible. He appears to be a big shot and inventor and might be the guy who bankrolls the company and gets his name on everything. (like Emerson?) 4. Fred works for Hydraulic and among his duties is advertising. He breaks away and his partners in early 86(Hunter boys) get together and using the old ads, and some new ideas in water motors, establish a new company in New York called Tuerk Water METER Co. This is to capitalize on the popular name Tuerk Water MOTOR which is made by Hydraulic. Guess what? Tuerk Water METER makes Water MOTORS...not Water METERS. Sally sells seashells by the seashore... oops .. sorry. 5 Hydraulic sues and wins. Fred can't use the Tuerk Water METER name. I'm speculating this may have been the impetus to change the name to Hunter Fan and Motor, yet in most ads, the water motors and fans are given credit as Tuerks and in some cases they point out Hunter Fan and motor previously known as Tuerk Water Meter. (a bit of comprise for old Fred Tuerk?)Hydraulic continues to point out in all their water motor ads that they are the SOLE manufacturers of the Tuerk water motor. 6 To make it more confusing, Tuerk Hydraulic Power changes THEIR name in 98 or so to Standard Water Meter and they still make Tuerk Water MOTORS. So Tuerk water motor owners, what do you have? Fred of Hunter fames' motor? or one from Hydraulic power? Here's a link explaining the trademark infringement.. http://books.google.com/books?id=v-w7AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA385&dq=%22frederick+tuerk%22&lr=&as_brr=0&cd=2#v=onepage&q=%22frederick%20tuerk%22&f=false Tuerk Hydraulic Co. was Frederick Tuerk Jr. first water motor patent. Mid 80s Frederick Tuerk jumps ship with Tuerk Hydraulic Co. to team up with the Hunter brothers Jim and John. To get back to the 1895 lawsuit, it was contended by the plaintiff (the Tuerk Hydraulic Motor Company; formerly the Tuerk Water Motor Company of Chicago) that the Frederick W. Tuerk and Hunter partnership was organized "for manufacturing a water meter, no meters were were actually made or sold; and that some time prior to December 1886, a motor similar in general appearance to that of the plaintiff " was produced. After investigation, it was found that the Tuerk Water Meter Company had manufactured a water motor called "Tuerk's New Water Motor," and it was designed by "Tuerk Motor, Syracuse, N.Y." Basically, Frederick W. Tuerk and the Hunters were found guilty of trademark infringement and could no longer use the name "Tuerk Water-Meter Company" (The New York Supplement containing the decisions of the Supreme and Lower Courts of Record of New York State, St. Paul: West Publishing Co., 1896, Vol. 36, pp. 384-386). In late 1889, Frederick W. Tuerk and his brother, Samuel O., moved from Syracuse to Fulton where they were still associated with the Hunters under the name Tuerk Water Meter Company. After the 1895 lawsuit, the Hunters bought up the remaining interest from Frederick W. Tuerk and the Hunter Fan and Motor Company was created in 1896 (see also patents of Frederick W.). Hunter Fan & Motor Co. had a little surprise for the 96 season. They were now marketing an ELECTRIC ceiling fan on the market once again with the TUERK name in electrical trade. Tuerk Hydraulic Co. can't touch this one legally because the electric Tuerk ceiling fan patent holder is now Frederick Tuerk Jr's. brother Samuel Tuerk. It is kind of ironic that in 98 Tuerk Hydraulic Co. changed their name to The Standard Water Meter Company, yet still maintaining marketing the Tuerk water motor. They dumped the Tuerk name off the company title. Sounds kind of personal, doesn't it. 🙂 Edited January 19 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) The Tuerk brothers (Frederick Tuerk Jr., Samuel Tuerk, and Gustavus Tuerk) Rev. father who came from Germany and settled in Ontario. Rev. Frederick William Tuerk b. 23 Feb 1820 Rade, Dusseldorf, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany d. 3 Jul 1901 Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada: Waterloo Region Generations (regionofwaterloo.ca) Rev Frederick William Tuerk (1820-1901) - Find a Grave Memorial Edited January 19 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Frederick W. Tuerk Jr. Frederick William Tuerk b. 22 Nov 1844 , Prussia, Germany d. Yes, date unknown: Waterloo Region Generations (regionofwaterloo.ca) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Samuel Obidjah Tuerk Samuel Obidjah Tuerk b. 1859 Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada d. 8 Apr 1916 Fulton, Oswego, New York, USA: Waterloo Region Generations (regionofwaterloo.ca) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Gustav Adolph Tuerk Gustav Adolph Tuerk b. 23 Aug 1854 , Ontario, Canada d. 1934: Waterloo Region Generations (regionofwaterloo.ca) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Rockwell Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) " Sounds kind of personal, doesn't it." It was personal, a family squabble after all... justifiable on the part of the remaining Chicago Tuerks... Hunters prospered, moved to the Lake Ontario area, renowned as a fruit-growing region, and one source reputes they had the largest orchards in New York State. Like any local capitalists, they had a store, grain mill, lumber mill, what-not, and would have sought other investment opportunities. John C. Hunter (the father of many sons) may have crossed paths with Frederick William Tuerk (also father of many sons) when the Tuerks first settled in Pittsburgh, prior to Western Ontario, this is just a remote possibility to explain how they became acquainted; Syracuse industry is a perfectly satisfactory answer of itself. At any rate, formal and varied business relations were established during the 1880s, though Hunters' prosperity was seriously challenged in the 1910's, which led to the next chapters of the Hunter story. Edited January 19 by Steve Rockwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) Steve, at your convenience, please see if you can pin down son Frederick W. Tuerk Jr's. obituary and resting place. The directories may leave a bread crumb trail to follow. The family descendants obviously don't know. Frederick William Tuerk b. 22 Nov 1844 , Prussia, Germany d. Yes, date unknown: Waterloo Region Generations (regionofwaterloo.ca) Edited January 19 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Hunter's first adventure with connection to GE was 96. I found an electrical trade article dated for 97 stating the number of GE motors ordered for that season. Now I just have to find it again. Like a dumb a$$, I didn't save it during the scans. The figure was 700 ordered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Rockwell Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I have 29 Apr 1916, Chicago. Nothing concerning resting pace in the file... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 4 minutes ago, Steve Rockwell said: I have 29 Apr 1916, Chicago. Nothing concerning resting pace in the file... That's bizarre. His Brother Samuel died on Apr. 8th of 16 in Fulton. You sure you have the right Fred Jr.? If so, my bet is he is buried somewhere in Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Rockwell Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Tuerk— Died at the home of his daughter, Mrs. George Denniston, April 8th, Samuel O. Tuerk, aged 57 years. He is survived by his daughter, Mrs. Emma Denniston, and one son, Fred S. Tuerk of Cleveland, Ohio. Private funeral services were held at his late home Monday; interment in Mt. Adnah. The news of the death of Mr. Tuerk on Saturday, while not unexpected, caused a general expression of regret throughout the city, where he was so well known and held in the highest regard by all who had the pleasure of his acquaintance. For the past 27 years the deceased made his home in this city, and it is safe to say that he has never made an enemy, but on the other hand, friends innumerable Mr. Tuerk was the inventor of the Tuerk fan and motor and for many years was the real head and sole designer of the many patterns of this great invention, manufactured in such large numbers here by the Hunter Fan and Motor Company and shipped to every part of the civilized world. A few years ago failing health compelled him to relinquish his personal supervision of the plant, but he retained his interest and was chief advisor to the company at the time of his demise. Socially there were few men who had the hold upon their fellowmen that Mr. Tuerk possessed. His integrity, amiable disposition and liberality was the secret of his making friends and retaining them through life. He will be greatly missed by his numerous friends, who extend their heartfelt sympathy to the bereaved son and daughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Steve Rockwell said: I have 29 Apr 1916, Chicago. Nothing concerning resting pace in the file... Can you please post your information? That is kind of crazy. The family has no clue where Fred Jr. died or was buried. Edited January 19 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) Patent holder is a resident of Chicago in 1910. Frederick W. Tuerk Jr. born 1844, aged 66 years. 1498395520547543748-00963187 (storage.googleapis.com) Edited January 19 by Russ Huber 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Find his widow, you find his grave. Canadian Census of March 31, 1901, Berlin, Waterloo (North), Canada, p. 12, household #114 Frederick W. Tuerk, head, b. Sep 23, 1820, age 80, married Maria Tuerk, wife, b. Apr 5, 1834, age 66, married Frederick Tuerk, son, b. Nov 22, 1845, age 55, widowed Gustave A. Tuerk, son, b. Aug 23, 1854, age 46, single Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 7 hours ago, Steve Rockwell said: I have 29 Apr 1916, Chicago. Nothing concerning resting place in the file... Messaged to me by Jeff Lumsden. It is really looking like the Hunter/Tuerk team boys Fred & Sam passed in the same month, same year. There are email addresses left by the Tuerk descendants. Maybe they can finally give Fred a death date and burial place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Rockwell Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) Tidbits such as these were intended for a Tuerk thread... some day, I suppose... Other Tuerk brothers appear as early as 1872; this 1877 listing is Frederick Jr.'s first appearance in Chicago: 1878 Edited January 20 by Steve Rockwell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 14 hours ago, Russ Huber said: Messaged to me by Jeff Lumsden. It is really looking like the Hunter/Tuerk team boys Fred & Sam passed in the same month, same year. There are email addresses left by the Tuerk descendants. Maybe they can finally give Fred a death date and burial place. 21 hours ago, Steve Rockwell said: I have 29 Apr 1916, Chicago. Nothing concerning resting pace in the file... I sent the above information to the Waterloo Region Curator yesterday. I received a response below from him this morning. Frederick Tuerk Jr. will eventually have death date and burial place on the website. "We" do good things here. Thanks, I will add this to his record on the website Darryl ¸¸.•*¨*•*´¨) ¸.•´¸.•*´¨) ¸.•*¨) (¸.•´ (¸.•` ¤ Cheers! Waterloo Region Generations - a record of those who once called Waterloo Region their home. Looking for stories, information and images of these people. Generations.regionofwaterloo. ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On 1/18/2024 at 10:10 AM, Russ Huber said: George, please take a picture of this viewing into the loop. The additional images kindly shared. Enjoy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) This model is validated on the market in 1889. Unknown if it was manufactured. Patent issued in 90. Unknown if it was manufactured. Patent issued in 92. 1900 AC Tuerk catalogue image. Edited January 21 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) This ribbed ball blade adjuster knob and mechanism can be seen in an 1893 Tuerk Water Meter Co. catalogue. Edited January 21 by Russ Huber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Huber Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 7 hours ago, Russ Huber said: This model is validated on the market in 1889. Unknown if it was manufactured. Patent issued in 90. Unknown if it was manufactured. Patent issued in 92. 1889-92 has the distinctive bowl shaped knob adjuster. 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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