Complete line of GE 8" fans with Brass Blades and Brass 6-"S" wire cages.

[Ted Kaczor]

I belive this is a complete line of all GE 8" BB/BC - Drop ring and Parallel rings, Stationary and Oscillating fan models, except the one in the middle FWEW Wood System (predecessor?), I included because of the same parts used such as base, cage, struts. Motor and badge are different.

Update, input by Mr. Rassel Huber; missing first model with carbone brashes, pictures and description below.

Edited October 31 by Ted Kaczor

[Ted Kaczor]

the older stationry model didn't come with the shaft GE cap in the back. Oscillators are all brass except for the back covers with oscillator cases. Most of them finished in gun blue over the brass.

[Roger Borg]

42 minutes ago, Ted Kaczor said:

the older stationry model didn't come with the shaft GE cap in the back. Oscillators are all brass except for the back covers with oscillator cases. Most of them finished in gun blue over the brass.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a stamped steel version the appears identical, down to the engraved 123 speed numbers on the base flange.

Wondering how that one fits into the mix, and its place in this line of 8" models. I imagine it was the final iteration of this model?

Thanks in advance for any info...

[Russ Huber]

Nice collection, Ted. You are missing the first model introduced late 1909. The best of luck finding it. To the best of my knowledge only 2 have surfaced. 

[Ted Kaczor]

yeah, wonder what material was use to make the back cover, looks like the part arround shaft with brashes is cast, brass, bronze (heavy gage). how about the rest? whas it a 3 speeds model?

[Ted Kaczor]

13 hours ago, Roger Borg said:

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a stamped steel version the appears identical, down to the engraved 123 speed numbers on the base flange.

Wondering how that one fits into the mix, and its place in this line of 8" models. I imagine it was the final iteration of this model?

Thanks in advance for any info...

I guess you could, naturally making them out of stamped steel parts would be the next step for GE (profit margin). I was concentrating on 8" brass models only.

[Jeff Rusnak]

Wow !! Beautiful collection of The GE all brass fans !! I’m drooling over the blued brass oscillator it’s a bucket list fan for me !! I think your missing the Jandus version of the all brass GE’s I’ve got one in the blued finish and love the guard design !! Congrats on your all brass collection !! 

[Russ Huber]

15 hours ago, Ted Kaczor said:

I believe this is a complete line of all GE 8" BB/BC - Drop ring and Parallel rings, Stationary and Oscillating fan models.

 

1 hour ago, Ted Kaczor said:

yeah, wonder what material was used to make the back cover, looks like the part around shaft with brushes is cast, brass, bronze (heavy gage). how about the rest? what is it a 3 speeds model?

Ted, 

Your first quote above is focused on complete line of GE 8" BB/BC models. The very first 8" model with BB/BC from GE was introduced to the market in the fall of 1909. It was manufactured in limited numbers in a drawn steel frame either for direct or alternating current. Both the AC and DC models were brushed. The rear and front bearing shaft holders are cast brass, no oil cups. The first drawn brass frame 8" models were introduced in the January 1910 GE fan motor bulletin.

FWIW...I have witnessed the 8" GE with drawn brass frame in mottled copper finish.

Edited October 28 by Russ Huber

[Ted Kaczor]

55 minutes ago, Russ Huber said:

 

Ted, 

Your first quote above is focused on complete line of GE 8" BB/BC models. The very first 8" model with BB/BC from GE was introduced to the market in the fall of 1909. It was manufactured in limited numbers in a drawn steel frame either for direct or alternating current. Both the AC and DC models were brushed. The rear and front bearing shaft holders are cast brass, no oil cups. The first drawn brass frame 8" models were introduced in the January 1910 GE fan motor bulletin.

FWIW...I have witnessed the 8" GE with drawn brass frame in mottled copper finish.

so, it was steel as the first used material in this first model, interesting. Thank you Russel. 

[Steve Rockwell]

https://new.afcaforum.com/index.php?/topic/59756-1909-ge-introduction-brushed-ac-8-residence-desk-bracket-fan-motor/#comment-502586

[Michael Rathberger]

It's a nice lineup Ted, congrats.

Hint, just change the title to ...6 wire drop and parallel cage....

 

[Steve Cunningham]

18 hours ago, Ted Kaczor said:

the older stationry model didn't come with the shaft GE cap in the back. Oscillators are all brass except for the back covers with oscillator cases. Most of them finished in gun blue over the brass.

Do you have the DC Oscillator?

[Anthony Lindsey]

Here's the 32V DC Delco version 

[Russ Huber]

On 10/28/2024 at 12:23 PM, Steve Cunningham said:

Do you have the DC Oscillator?

 

3 hours ago, Anthony Lindsey said:

Here's the 32V DC Delco version 

Anthony,

Very cool unique farm plant fan. 1916 it appears was the last year for the GE  8" all brass line. GE went with a cast iron/die cast construction 9" model for the 1917 fan motor season, I believe your blade is 9" in diameter.  I posted GE's first 8" model introduced late 09 fan motor season in drawn steel frame which lead into the 1910 GE fan motor bulletin introducing the first GE all brass line with changes. It appears the GE 8" stationary/oscillator drawn brass models Ted posted with BB/BC 6 wire guard were on the market 1910-1916.

 

Edited October 30 by Russ Huber

[Anthony Lindsey]

Oops.... your correct,   it is 9"

[Tim Marks]

Beautiful collection. Another fan you could consider for this group (in addition to the steel 8” models) would be the model that came after the steel 8” fans. It features the same drawn steel base and housing as the late 8” models but features a 9” brass blade and steel cage that were later put on the whiz fan. I have only seen one of these myself (in my collection) but I expect there are many more and someone here will hopefully post one to this thread. 
 

Ted- are the two oscillators identical or do you see differences? Are the original round hole rear endcaps still intact?

T

[Tim Marks]

Some of the display worthy fans from my 8” collection below

[Tim Marks]

No ide why my pics arent showing. Will address later today and include a pic of the 9” drawn steel fan in my collection  

[Tim Marks]

Another thing I just thought of, the two Jandus models that would fit here are the early model featuring no rear bearing carrier cap (same as first year GE all brass), and the later version featuring an unbranded smooth rear motor carrier cap. Both have the AB tag. I’ve heard ones with a jandus motor tag exist but I have not seen one. 

[Russ Huber]

2 hours ago, Tim Marks said:

Another fan you could consider for this group (in addition to the steel 8” models) would be the model that came after the steel 8” fans. It features the same drawn steel base and housing as the late 8” models but features a 9” brass blade and steel cage that were later put on the whiz fan. 

I have a drawn steel frame GE stump here sans blade, guard, struts. It looks like the 8" drawn brass model; however, the blade and guard are not there to validate an 8" model. I stand corrected on my post above with the introduction date of the 9" model, claiming 1917. The 1916 introduction GE 9" model displayed in electrical trade does not support a drawn steel frame. The 1916 GE fan motor Bulletin does not support a 9" model, imagine that. The GE 8" and 9" models shared the market it appears for only the 1916 fan motor season.

We know for fact GE started their 8" fan motor line in mid to late 1909 with drawn steel frame. Did GE end their 8" fan motor line in 1916 with a drawn steel frame?

Edited November 3 by Russ Huber

[Russ Huber]

3 hours ago, Tim Marks said:

Another thing I just thought of, the two Jandus models that would fit here are the early model featuring no rear bearing carrier cap (same as first year GE all brass), and the later version featuring an unbranded smooth rear motor carrier cap. Both have the AB tag. I’ve heard ones with a jandus motor tag exist but I have not seen one. 

Jandus/AB outsourced the 8" residence fan from GE as they were not tooled to manufacture them. Dayton Fan & Motor was another source for Jandus/AB to supplement their small residence fan motor line. Jandus Electric Company motor tags on the 8" drawn all brass models were only one season of 1910. Adams & Bagnall absorbed Jandus late 10.

Edited November 3 by Russ Huber

[Tim Marks]

7 hours ago, Russ Huber said:

Jandus/AB outsourced the 8" residence fan from GE as they were not tooled to manufacture them. Dayton Fan & Motor was another source for Jandus/AB to supplement their small residence fan motor line. Jandus Electric Company motor tags on the 8" drawn all brass models were only one season of 1910. Adams & Bagnall absorbed Jandus late 10.

Curious… do any jandus tagged examples exist? 

[Russ Huber]

17 minutes ago, Tim Marks said:

Curious… do any jandus tagged examples exist? 

Jandus jumped on the GE 8" all brass the first year they were on the market in 10.

Edited November 4 by Russ Huber

[Tim Marks]

Very cool. So that makes three iterations of jandus “all brass” fans. Early with jandus tag. Mid with AB tag and no rear carrier cap. And third with a smooth rear carrier cap and AB tag. Ty, Russ!

[Tim Marks]

Oh! Four versions. Very first would be based on the the 1909 first variant GE which features the shorter motor case and bronze brush holder.